Weighted blankets aren’t just cozy; they signal safety to your nervous system. Baloo Living’s Elizabeth Grojean explains how deep‑pressure touch lowers cortisol, boosts serotonin/melatonin, and measurably improves sleep—plus how Baloo keeps products cool, breathable, and earth‑friendly.
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
From the first night I started using your weighted comforter. It inexplicably made me fall asleep faster and always has.
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Elizabeth Grojean
The even pressure across the whole body. Gentle and even distribution of pressure signals to the nervous system that you're safe. There's a decrease in cortisol, the stress hormone, almost immediately. And then there's an increase in serotonin. And serotonin naturally converts to melatonin in the body.
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
This is your host, doctor Mike Bell. Koski.
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
All right, everybody, welcome back to another episode of the Red Light Report. On today's episode, I'm joined by Elizabeth Grosjean, founder and CEO of Blue Living, which is a company known for its beautifully crafted, eco conscious weighted blankets designed to help people sleep better and feel calmer, which I can attest to. And after spending several years immersed in the mindful culture of Bali, Elizabeth returned to the US inspired to create a brand that merges sustainability with modern wellness.
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
Since launching in 2017, Blue Living has become a leader in the sleep and self-care space known not just for its products, but also for its thoughtful, environmentally responsible practices. Elizabeth, we have a lot to uncover there. But without further ado, welcome to the Red Light Report.
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Elizabeth Grojean
I want to take that bio and save it and use it for everything. That was so beautiful. Thank you. So I got.
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
Impatient. Send it to you.
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Elizabeth Grojean
Okay.
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
But this is this is an interesting topic, Elizabeth, because the audience maybe after just even hearing the intro or seeing the title of this episode when it's released, we're used to talking about red light mitochondrial supplements like methylene blue, carbon Sexy things that improve your energy at the mitochondrial level specifically. And here we are talking about weighted blankets.
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
This is a loaded question. I already know where this is going, but why should people or why should this audience care about the impact the weighted blankets have on the health and wellness?
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Elizabeth Grojean
Weighted blankets help you sleep better, deeper, higher quality sleep and go to sleep faster with faster sleep onset latency. And so you probably know better than I do, or can explain better than I. What happens on the cellular level while you sleep. But I think we all can agree that getting more, better quality sleep is a foundational pillar of overall health and wellness, and that is what weighted blankets do.
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
100%. And that's exactly when when I asked some of the previous guests over the years, like, what is the foundational aspect of your health? Or like what's a no well-kept secret? But like, what is one of the aspects of your health that your most fervent or passionate or like, non-negotiable, I guess I should say. And a lot of people end up saying sleep because it truly is foundational to every other aspect of health.
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
Either you're getting quality sleep or you're not. And then there's the domino effect. Either way, because of that. So before we go too much deeper into your company, and why not just walk us down the path? Give us the origin story. I kind of highlighted that, but just go a little deeper about how this all came to be.
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
Like, why weighted blankets? Like, what was the.
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Elizabeth Grojean
Yeah.
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
Progression to get here?
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Elizabeth Grojean
Well, it's kind of funny because my superpower is sleep. So I wasn't trying to solve a problem that I had. I can sleep sitting up in a corner and I'm very grateful for that ability. But it did start because I was I had a career in marketing, more traditional marketing. I'm a little bit older than the digital marketing revolution to have learned that in school, but I was in New York for about 15 years and was feeling unresolved, longing, incomplete, anxious.
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Elizabeth Grojean
All of the things that I think a lot of people can relate to. But I have a stubborn mindset and a belief that I can just try harder, work harder, do something differently, and find the answer. So I saved money, I left my job, and I bought a one way ticket to Bali, which was, turns out, a good idea.
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Elizabeth Grojean
At the time, a lot of people were doubting me, like, what are you doing? Where are you going? Why? You know, because it wasn't a vacation. It was a quest without a destination. It was a question. And along that process of giving myself permission to ask the question and then find out who or what was on the other side, I followed the breadcrumbs and it led me to the idea that I would love to start a business, and I wanted to start a business that would give me location, freedom and flexibility like location and time freedom.
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Elizabeth Grojean
Also financial freedom, which was something. Up until that point I hadn't allowed myself to admit was important to me. I had been working to do good, serve the world, serve the planet, serve others, be of service. But I'd never been willing to admit that I wanted something for financial reward. And once I gave myself permission to have that, ironically, is when I discovered a product which is a weighted blanket, which gave me an experience that I was floored by, that I wanted to share with other people.
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Elizabeth Grojean
I saw, like the possibility and the promise and the potential of of people being able to wake up well-rested, be restored, vital, have patience and empathy, compassion, all the things for our mental health that improve when we get better sleep, as well as aspects of our physical health. But yeah, it just it spoke to me on every level that this was a product experience, which we can talk in this conversation too, about weighted blankets, how they what they are and how they work.
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Elizabeth Grojean
But it really is an experience, and it was a tool that I could use to share the experience that I had in going kind of deep into nature, withdrawing from culture, Western culture, and reconnecting with myself in a new way that could be shared through a product with other people who weren't able to, you know, disappear to the other side of the world for six months or a year.
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Elizabeth Grojean
So the business became a personal expression and passion and also abundant financial reward at the same time.
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
I think that's an important message when you're speaking about giving yourself permission, seemingly after everything you had done up to that point in service of others in the world, to allow yourself to feel okay with doing something that's serving a purpose and serving others, but also having to your point of financial reward. Because I think there is a certain aspect of society that demonize this money or the making of money or capitalism.
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
But I think if you're the right person, with the right mindset, truly serving a purpose, then it's a win win situation. And I think that's ultimately how it should be. White Bailey.
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Elizabeth Grojean
Yeah, you know, it kept popping up for me in different places. I read an article, it's a medium post, and it later was turned into a book, actually. But at the time I read this article in medium, Luna is the author's name. It's called something about the difference between should and must. There's all this should we should do in our world.
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Elizabeth Grojean
But then there's the things that you must do because your heart is calling for it. And in her long essay, one of the things that she did in her journey of going from a tech San Francisco tech person to becoming an artist was a retreat in Bali. And so every time I would hear stories about people having these personal Renaissance or creative Renaissance, I guess there seemed to be this pattern or this thread of Bali being a place for that.
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Elizabeth Grojean
And so I didn't know what my creative renaissance was to be, but I thought I saw this T-shirt one time. I was like, I think it said, your life is your art. And I was like, oh, that's so cool. Like the way we choose to approach life and live our one life that we have is our art in our expression, whatever that might be.
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Elizabeth Grojean
You know, you could be a Wall Street banker. That's it. That's your way. So I was looking for a new way in because I was I was kind of like, yeah, trying all of the rearranging furniture on the boat, if you know what I mean. Like, I change jobs, I change roles, I change cities. But it was like, I can't get past the surface level.
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Elizabeth Grojean
I need to go somewhere else to get deeper.
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
Have you been back to Bali since I did?
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Elizabeth Grojean
I was there for three extended periods of time, so it wasn't like one two year period, but for three different long periods over the course of a couple of years. I haven't been since the pandemic, and I have to tell you, I think about it every day. I would love to go back.
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
We'll get back there. Let me first say I can attest to the power of weighted blankets. I have a supplement that I tout as being a weighted blanket for your nervous system because of how it ramps down your cortisol levels, improve your Gaba synthesis in the brain, all of which I like, just makes you feel drowsy and just like, organically fall asleep.
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
So that's an analogy of a weighted blanket for your nervous system. And up to the point until I received the comforter.
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Elizabeth Grojean
Oh, comforter.
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
I had never experienced like this weighted blanket or weighted anything. I just heard about it and it's like, cool. Sounds like it could work, but I just like, never did it for there's no particular reason, I just didn't. But from the first night I started using your weighted comforter, it's just inexplicably made me fall a fast fall asleep faster and always has.
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
Not that I've I don't have a sleep problem. I wouldn't say some nights, you know, just as a CEO running the business like your mind is running a little bit at night. I've gotten better about that over the years. But undeniably, since the beginning of using this about a month and a half two months ago, like the the weight, it just makes you fall asleep.
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
It makes you feel drowsy, just makes you feel comfortable. My mind doesn't run and like consistently falling asleep quickly. So break down the science if you can, about what is the weight doing? Because it's different than me putting my German Shepherd on my body and 95 pounds like that's not going to do the ticket. So what is it about the weight?
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
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Elizabeth Grojean
There's this feeling of physical safety. And so your fight or flight reflex or trigger can relax. That aspect of our nervous system can kind of shut down and shut off. And so, you know, you're safe, that you don't need to be vigilant. And other studies, not specifically on weighted blankets, but on this mechanism of deep pressure touch, have shown that there's a decrease in cortisol, the stress hormone, almost immediately.
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Elizabeth Grojean
And then there's an increase in serotonin. And serotonin naturally converts to melatonin in the body. And of course, melatonin is what gives us the cue to rest or to queue to sleep. So that's why we kind of slip into sleep so suddenly and easily. And that is why I think that weighted blankets are so beautiful and elegant is because it's very simple.
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Elizabeth Grojean
It's not complicated. There's not a lot of technology involved, and it just works with the body's natural system to give it something that it didn't know that it necessarily needed to be able to go to sleep more easily.
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
So when did you first experience a weighted blanket?
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Elizabeth Grojean
Not until I was doing product research, and I went to a trade show and picked up a sample in Asia. I brought it back to my villa in Bali, so it was like 80 degrees tropics in a day. I put it on and I fell asleep and 20 minutes later I woke up. You know, that natural cycle of kind of an afternoon nap where you go out and you come back.
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Elizabeth Grojean
I woke up and I was like, whoa, where did it go? I felt like I had gone somewhere so far away. I was just so relaxed and yeah, really unexpected. Really surprising. So that was the first you were.
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
Hooked from there.
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Elizabeth Grojean
I went from there. I was like, oh my God, this is the best. Everyone has to get this.
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
So in your company you offer a lot of different types of weighted products blankets, comforters, duvets, even small things, or smaller for like children or what have you. So if a person is looking into this, what's like the traditional choice? Like how can they dip their toes into the weighted textile or weighted blanket world?
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Elizabeth Grojean
If someone wants to try one and you're looking not sure which one to pick, I always recommend just going with the 12 pound throw. The throw size is great because it's it's not so big or heavy that you can't lift it or make your bed. I mean, with the weighted comforter, do you ever find sometimes that it's a lot to make your bed?
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Elizabeth Grojean
Or is it it's okay.
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
I don't make my bed too often. Okay. Yeah, sometimes my wife does. Most of the time, I'll admit that. But it is a heavy like it is heavy, right? Like it's not just a cotton linen, like it's got some weight, so it does, like, add a little. Well, it's almost like a workout in a way. In a good way.
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Elizabeth Grojean
Totally. Because the comforter, it's like all spread out across the entire bed. So when it's, you know, fold it up, it's so heavy. When it's on you spread out, it's not so much. But so I think a throw size is a great size. It's easy to put in the machine, the dryer, you can wash it at home. There's this question about how heavy to go like rule of thumb 10% of your body weight.
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Elizabeth Grojean
So if you weigh 150 pounds to get a 15 pound blanket. But I say that is just a very broad and general guideline. There's not really a right way to go. And because our throw size is just a personal size, a little smaller, it's kind of that, you know, equivalent of maybe a 15 pound ish typical blanket, but it seems to also be the Goldilocks like we get almost no returns on it.
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Elizabeth Grojean
People of all ages and sizes using it. So it's a sweet spot for someone starting out. Yeah.
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
I asked my wife, do you have any questions for Elizabeth? Kind of jokingly the other day. She usually doesn't for like guest. I kind of just jokingly throw her way. But she did have a question. Can these weighted blankets are like a weighted throw? Could they work for pets?
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Elizabeth Grojean
Yeah.
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
Or feedback on that?
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Elizabeth Grojean
Yeah. Have you guys heard of the Thunder jacket. And it's a compression vest that is made for pets. So it's the same concept deep pressure touch for like anxious dogs that get scared to during a thunderstorm. But I have heard a lot of stories of people who have pets, who love to get under the blanket with their owners, I think for the same reason.
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Elizabeth Grojean
So we haven't gone into the pet space specifically, but I do think they work for pets.
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
Yeah, I don't see why not. What about science? You mentioned pre-recording potentially a study we could talk about. Let's dig into that, if you could. I want to hear what that's about.
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Elizabeth Grojean
Yeah, I was I was curious too. Like we hear anecdotally feedback from people all the time, of course, saying that they've had a great experience and they're helping them sleep. And then there is a lack of data or studies for a way to blankets, specifically a lot of studies on deep pressure touch. So we conducted our own. We partnered with a company called Friends Frenzy.
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Elizabeth Grojean
It's a wearable sleep tech. They have an amazing bunch of investors and tech in their product, and it is a sleep solution on and of its own. Using AI and your biometric data to give you meditations and sound and audio to help you go to sleep and stay asleep all night long. So if it notices in your brainwave pattern that it looks like you might be getting ready to wake up, it will turn on, kick on, and do something that makes you stay asleep.
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
Interesting.
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Elizabeth Grojean
That's a pretty cool piece of tech, but they're their biometric feedback data. Or, you know, I'm trying to say like how well they measure your biometrics is 88% as accurate as if you were doing in-hospital sleep study or in lab sleep study. So we partnered with them and we had 40 volunteers sleeping with our weighted blankets. And we measured it, you know, over the course of nights.
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Elizabeth Grojean
So we had control night control groups, experiment groups using the Friends Brain band on and off with features to see the results. And so what we ended up finding, and I will say to you, in our population, we did not necessarily select people with difficulty sleeping. It was a broad range of just general people. So some were great sleepers to start with.
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Elizabeth Grojean
But we had sleep efficiency increased to 92% and when combined with the friends to 94% sleep efficiency. So that means that the ratio of how often you wake up in the night to how long you sleep and I have found personally and speaking with customers, that is the number one thing that people are struggling with is waking up at 3 or 4 in the morning and then trying to get back to sleep.
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Elizabeth Grojean
That's the main struggle. Second to for, you know, ahead of trying to get to sleep in the first place. Then we saw an increase of 10% to deep sleep duration. So that was pretty cool. And a 27% in sleep onset latency, meaning the time it takes to fall asleep. And then my favorite. Yeah, getting to sleep 27% faster.
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
Gotcha.
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Elizabeth Grojean
And then 78.4% of people said that the Baloo weighted blanket had a positive impact on their sleep quality. That's more qualitative. And then I think maybe the bottom line impact on people's lives was a 10% increase in their readiness scores. So feeling of physical readiness to start the day, waking up and feeling rested, waking up and feeling good improvement by 10%.
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
In that readiness score, or just otherwise, was an objective measure specifically for HR v.
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Elizabeth Grojean
No, unfortunately we weren't measuring for HIV.
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
Yeah, just because I think with because I've been using a bio, not a bio, and honoring for months and months at this point. After switching over from a bio strap and my readiness score in my RV, the last couple of months has certainly increased since using the weighted comforter. And on top of that, days where I have like a an intense workout or just like a busy, busy day, stressful day, whatever you want to call it, physically or mentally and or mentally.
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
My readiness score doesn't drop nearly as much. It actually maintains like a high score. I'm doing a lot of things. It's not just the weighted blanket, but the weighted blanket undoubtedly has a to to my subjective and a little bit of objective with my ordering. Yeah. As improved. Like I talked about a falling asleep faster, staying asleep. Not that I woke up a lot during the night, but maybe I did without knowing it.
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
You know what I mean? Like not fully aware, but going in and out of bodies.
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Elizabeth Grojean
Coming out.
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
Well, when it when it shouldn't be. And again, I'm waking up the next day more prepared and rested and, like, more resilient to take on the day when I should have had a larger drop in my resilience, if you will.
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Elizabeth Grojean
So yeah.
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
That's just my experience, and I can't speak highly enough about it.
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Elizabeth Grojean
What else do you think that you're doing that is maybe having the higher impact on your sleep quality? I'm curious if I a lot of things.
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
No, no, I, I laugh because you're going to think I'm crazy, but I sleep on magnets.
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Elizabeth Grojean
Oh, I don't really.
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
I'm not literally on magnets, but they're underneath my actual mattress, so there's like a nine 12 inch separation. And so I haven't taken a deep, deep dive on this podcast on magnets and the magnetism and all of behind it. I've kind of alluded to it, so I'm saving that for a another day in the near future. But I just wanted and I started the magnets around the same time as a weighted blanket.
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
I can't remember which one came first. They've both been within the last month, month and a half, and there's a lot of interesting research behind magnets and what it does to your recovery and all that stuff. And I can subjectively feel when the weighted blanket is on me, my body just wants to fall asleep like a super important, super special, especially with my SEO kind of type ish mind.
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
To have that in my arsenal where I can depend on that weighted blanket just to like, put me to sleep is everything.
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Elizabeth Grojean
Yeah, I love it too, because it's a one time purchase. You know, like there's so many things that you can subscribe to that help us, but you can just buy this one to put it in your bed. And I was telling you prior to recording that I love the red light toothbrush that I've really been like, I've been using it and I feel like my mouth is cleaner.
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Elizabeth Grojean
My four year old likes to use it. We're probably not sure toothbrush heads, but it's like how I get him to brush his teeth sometime.
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
Recently, some replacement has been.
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Elizabeth Grojean
Yeah, I'll be I'll be in the store, but. And then you're saying, you know, one of the great things about it is that you've got to brush your teeth anyway, right? So you might as well add this to your toothbrush time. And I feel same about way blankets, which is like you're going to be spending the time and bad you'll be sleeping.
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Elizabeth Grojean
You buy this, put it on. Is it? It is going to improve your sleep quality every single night. And that has, you know, ongoing compounding effects on your overall health. So why not?
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
Two things I love when you can add a health habit that has a tangible, objective and subjective benefit. You don't have to change your health habit because you already doing it sleeping or brushing your teeth. And then the compound effect. Every time you go to sleep, every time you brush your teeth, you're receiving the benefits, the compound every time you use it compared to not using it.
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
So I think that's like one of the if you want to call it a game, like one of the games of health or one of the games of anti-aging is starting these health habits as soon as possible to then compound the benefits for as long as possible, i.e. longevity. So weighted blanket certainly fits that. And again, I can't recommend it enough.
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
Let's jump into another aspect of the company which is like the environmentally conscious aspect. So why is that important to you and how do you implement that into Baloo living?
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Elizabeth Grojean
It is something that has always been important to me since I was a kid, I think. I wish I knew where it came from so I could make sure I instilled it in my own son, but, you know, maybe it was growing up camping or my grandmother who told me all about fairies and whatever, I don't know, I almost didn't start the business because I thought, gosh, you know, what am I going to do?
00;24;49;18 - 00;25;13;16
Elizabeth Grojean
Place an order with the factory to make more stuff and ship it everywhere? I don't know, and I decided to go ahead and proceed because the world is large and it's happening either way. People will be buying these blankets and better that they can buy mine and I can present a better option in the market and and hopefully make an improvement in the way that people think about these things and practice business.
00;25;13;19 - 00;25;34;00
Elizabeth Grojean
So initially we started out by using cotton. That was Ogo Tek certified, which means that it's free and clear from any harmful chemicals in the production of textile. And we've now since like it's been an evolution of learning for me as we go, we've taken out the polyester lining, which most brands will still use, and we've replaced it with cotton.
00;25;34;00 - 00;25;58;15
Elizabeth Grojean
So cotton lining and batting inside, which means that the blanket is it's just natural materials. The weight is coming from very fine glass, microbial, which we've also lab tested for purity. And that's why they're cool and breathable too, because there's no polyester inside. I think I've gotten to the point now where I don't even sleep well. If there's polyester blend sheets on the bed or if it's not natural materials, I really notice it in my sleep quality.
00;25;58;15 - 00;26;24;08
Elizabeth Grojean
So it has it. I do think it has a big impact on your sleep. We've changed our supply chain and our packaging to remove all plastics. So everything is you know, we've even invested in paper tape for the boxes because tapes plastic. And the most important thing is we partner with an organization called Sea Trees, which is reforesting kelp and mangrove forests along coastal edges.
00;26;24;11 - 00;26;50;02
Elizabeth Grojean
And the data shows that these forests can sequester five times more carbon from the atmosphere than the tropical rainforest. And their work is super innovative and impactful in the communities that they operate in. And I just think they're doing like a beautiful job of also storytelling and engagement with communities that they work with. So we offset our carbon footprint from all of our production and operations, including freight shipping, everything that we do.
00;26;50;04 - 00;27;13;26
Elizabeth Grojean
And then we double our offset. So we're paying it forward because we all know that we've all done a bunch of harm to this planet, and the only way we'll ever get anywhere with it is if we can start to undo some of that. So that's that's the partnership that I'm the most proud of. I always feel like whenever you make ecological claims or sustainability claims, you know, we're we're still having an impact because we exist.
00;27;13;26 - 00;27;20;05
Elizabeth Grojean
But the more we learn and the more we can do, hopefully the better we can do.
00;27;20;08 - 00;27;26;15
Dr. Mike Belkowski
That's amazing. And is this something that was the ethos of the company from the very beginning, or something that was integrated part way?
00;27;26;15 - 00;27;44;14
Elizabeth Grojean
Oh, definitely. From the beginning. We always had a carbon offset partner. We changed it to see trees. Since I learned about how amazing they are, and it's always been part of, it's always been such a high priority for me. When I used to work at an architecture firm, I was the marketing person. I got myself Leed certified, which is like certified in green building.
00;27;44;16 - 00;28;08;01
Elizabeth Grojean
I was like 24 and I was like, if I get it, maybe I can get all the other architects certified. And then we can educate our clients and change the world through green architecture. Didn't happen, but it's always been important to me that environmental aspect. And then I guess, like another thing that we do, this is a product that we almost never really talk about, but we have a linen robe that we've made using upcycled linen.
00;28;08;01 - 00;28;21;22
Elizabeth Grojean
So we've used our own returned or overstocked linens to turn into robes, and we make them by hand in the United States and workshop in Houston, which is really cute, awesome husband, wife, team that ran that workshop.
00;28;21;25 - 00;28;23;07
Dr. Mike Belkowski
Well that's amazing.
00;28;23;10 - 00;28;24;09
Elizabeth Grojean
Yeah. That's it.
00;28;24;17 - 00;28;26;08
Dr. Mike Belkowski
How did that come to be?
00;28;26;11 - 00;28;48;09
Elizabeth Grojean
That was just an idea that I had. And like, we worked on it for a couple of years at some point, you know, everyone was like, where's your stuff made? Is that USA? And I was like, it's not. But it would be great if something could be. So we have that robe, which is a really nice robe. I think the cut is really for women more than men, but if you pull it off, you can pull it off.
00;28;48;11 - 00;28;51;01
Elizabeth Grojean
I think it's kind of manly when I look.
00;28;51;03 - 00;29;02;14
Dr. Mike Belkowski
I don't know, absolutely. I could but tell us about. So this is the interesting one. Just seen it now on the website. Talk to me about the weighted silk sleep stone mask.
00;29;02;17 - 00;29;23;15
Elizabeth Grojean
Oh I love that mask of the. This is made with mulberry silk. It weighs half a pound, so it's weighted with the same glass microbeads that we put in our blankets. And we added a crystal inside that sewn inside over the third eye, which is the seed of the pineal gland, which regulates your circadian rhythm. Yes. Right between your eyes.
00;29;23;17 - 00;29;48;20
Elizabeth Grojean
And so I'm always equivocating on crystals because I haven't read research on crystals, but I definitely have experienced my own energy being infected by crystals. So I thought this was something that was kind of fun to add, because you can choose your own, either an amethyst or a rose quartz. You don't see it. Like I said, they're sewn in there, but the magic itself too, is just super comfortable.
00;29;48;20 - 00;30;03;20
Elizabeth Grojean
Because if you like having anything on your face like I do, I like to even sometimes put a pillow on my head when I'm sleeping. I like that feeling of pressure. This mask does that, and then the mulberry silk is really good for your skin, and it's a cozy face hug.
00;30;03;25 - 00;30;20;27
Dr. Mike Belkowski
Oh, yeah. Sounds. I didn't realize that was there until we were talking about the robe. And I checked out that that tab with all the other accessories. I was going to ask you, what's the difference between the amethyst crystal and the rose quartz? But it outlines it above. Here. Amethyst, help to clear the mind, encourage sleep and rest.
00;30;21;00 - 00;30;25;24
Dr. Mike Belkowski
Rose quartz for the cultivation of love and harmony. So that's interesting.
00;30;25;25 - 00;30;36;06
Elizabeth Grojean
Yeah, and it seems to be more the more popular. Which one is Amethyst? Surprisingly. I mean, I thought rose quartz like the Stone of love. People really love it for sleep.
00;30;36;08 - 00;30;47;03
Dr. Mike Belkowski
And to boot, apparently it's the top pick. The best Luxury sleep mask of 2025, voted on by the Sleep Foundation. It looks like. Yes to that. That's amazing.
00;30;47;06 - 00;30;48;24
Elizabeth Grojean
Thank you.
00;30;48;26 - 00;30;50;06
Dr. Mike Belkowski
Interesting.
00;30;50;08 - 00;30;52;27
Elizabeth Grojean
Yeah. And it comes in a travel pouch. You know, just.
00;30;52;27 - 00;30;55;14
Dr. Mike Belkowski
Don't think you could use something or something.
00;30;55;16 - 00;30;58;05
Elizabeth Grojean
Yeah. For travel. It's great for the plane.
00;30;58;07 - 00;31;05;02
Dr. Mike Belkowski
Amazing. I mean, you have a whole bunch of other I mean, we could go through every product, but, like, tell me about some other of these accessories, like the pillow mist.
00;31;05;04 - 00;31;26;16
Elizabeth Grojean
Hermes. Yes. Because sense is like, I mean, scent. Our sense of smell is like our most primal scent. And so this idea that you could kind of prime yourself in a way for sleep every night with the same scent. And we have bergamot and lavender essential oils blended into that. And we follow the strictest clean beauty guidelines on ingredient and formulation.
00;31;26;16 - 00;31;49;18
Elizabeth Grojean
It's just a very light, you know, nothing heavy that smells like a fragrance per se. It's not there in the morning when you wake up, but it's a nice sensory experience for bed, the pillow mist, and then what I'm really into right now, besides the sleep mask, is the lap blanket, which it's 8 pounds. It's small, it's like the size of a pillowcase, but very cool for meditation or breathwork.
00;31;49;22 - 00;32;01;15
Elizabeth Grojean
I personally resist meditation and breathwork even though I love them and they're so good for me. I put this on my body. It helps me sort of get into my body, ground down and get get my head a little bit quieter when I'm getting started.
00;32;01;18 - 00;32;11;22
Dr. Mike Belkowski
I see that in one of the pictures someone's doing meditation. Interesting. So even just the weight in the lap is enough to stimulate that comfort and the relaxation aspect of it.
00;32;11;26 - 00;32;25;20
Elizabeth Grojean
It helps to a lesser degree, but it definitely helps. Yes, and if you're lying down, like sometimes if I lie down for I do have a Reiki coach, if I lie down and have a session, I put that on my body too. Even just the lap blanket, although it's smaller and denser, so it's heavier.
00;32;25;22 - 00;32;34;17
Dr. Mike Belkowski
Gotcha. And so that's one of my questions, I suppose, with like the weighted blanket or the weighted comforter when we're talking the poundage. That's the entire apparatus. Correct.
00;32;34;19 - 00;32;39;04
Elizabeth Grojean
So yes. Right. Spread over however big it is you got to keep.
00;32;39;06 - 00;32;39;28
Dr. Mike Belkowski
Yeah.
00;32;40;00 - 00;32;41;12
Elizabeth Grojean
50 would have been 25.
00;32;41;12 - 00;32;51;13
Dr. Mike Belkowski
Pounds, 25 pounds. So 25 pounds divided by two I mean I know it's not exactly but we're like 12, 13 pounds on our entire body.
00;32;51;16 - 00;33;18;27
Elizabeth Grojean
That's right. Maybe less because there's a lot of that weight also distributed elsewhere, like in our comforters. We did design it so that the edges are not weighted because obviously that's not on your body anyway, and it would just make it that much heavier and hard to manage. So it is only on the surface of the bed. I think that the 25 pound comforter, even though it is the heaviest total weight, is one of the lighter feels because of the size.
00;33;18;29 - 00;33;27;19
Dr. Mike Belkowski
And even with that being the perfect stimulus, like it's still a nice amount of weight. Undeniably there. But it's just like it's there.
00;33;27;19 - 00;33;48;04
Elizabeth Grojean
It's enough. And if you go to heavy, the heaviest one we have actually is a 20 pound blanket. So weight to size, it's it's the heaviest besides the weighted lap blanket. And I think the risk with that is if you have any hip back or knee pain, if you try to sleep with that much weight all night, it can aggravate that.
00;33;48;04 - 00;34;03;28
Elizabeth Grojean
And so we have a quiz on our website. We try to let people know like we choose that weight, but only if you're really sure that it's not going to cause a problem for you. It doesn't feel like so much when you put it on, but after a full night of sleeping, it can be a little too heavy.
00;34;04;00 - 00;34;18;28
Dr. Mike Belkowski
And let's just go down that path a little more if we can. That's a great point. Is there any other type of person, health condition or what have you? No medical advice, but not a contraindication, but maybe a precaution or like just something to consider when getting into the weighted textile days?
00;34;19;00 - 00;34;39;18
Elizabeth Grojean
Yeah, I'd say yes. I mean there's always this rule which I think is obvious, but here we are in the United States. So you have to say it like a person needs to be able to move it off of themselves. If they don't have the strength for that, they shouldn't use it. It's fine for sleep apnea. I think osteoarthritis could be an issue.
00;34;39;21 - 00;34;43;12
Elizabeth Grojean
So that's been one contraindication that we have to make.
00;34;43;12 - 00;34;44;29
Dr. Mike Belkowski
Contraindication.
00;34;45;02 - 00;34;48;20
Elizabeth Grojean
Well that might be too strong of a word. But like a caution on consideration.
00;34;48;20 - 00;34;49;06
Dr. Mike Belkowski
Sure.
00;34;49;08 - 00;34;50;21
Elizabeth Grojean
Yeah. Yeah.
00;34;50;25 - 00;35;00;20
Dr. Mike Belkowski
What about on the flip side. I mean we've kind of touched on and there's a lot of obvious ones, but it would most benefit from a weighted blankets. And in such.
00;35;00;22 - 00;35;20;22
Elizabeth Grojean
Children, first of all are so responsive to weighted blankets because their nervous systems are so sensitive. They really work well for kids with their sleep. My little boy's been using one since he was two. He still prefers it to everything else in his bed, and there's a lot of stuff in his bed and he calls it his heavy blanket.
00;35;20;22 - 00;35;39;01
Elizabeth Grojean
And he's a hot sleeper and it's the only thing he sleeps with that doesn't make him hot. So just proof positive that it's not overheating. Apart from kids, they're really great for everybody. I think I've kind of joked and said there for every human with a body, if you need sleep, but hours specifically are great for hot sleepers.
00;35;39;04 - 00;35;58;08
Elizabeth Grojean
Other uses can be for for mental health. So stress and anxiety. We did a study about two years ago with the university. It was an informal study, but we donated 90 blankets and they had a test, a control and a test group, and they saw a statistically significant improvement in anxiety amongst the college kids that were using them.
00;35;58;08 - 00;36;14;29
Elizabeth Grojean
But they weren't sleeping with them at night. They were using them in the daytime for two hours a day. They can be really comforting for people, especially with acute stress or anxiety. Yeah, anyone who wants to improve or optimize their sleep, I think. I think sometimes I do hear people say, oh, well, I don't have insomnia or I don't have a sleep problem.
00;36;15;01 - 00;36;21;28
Elizabeth Grojean
And it's not only for that, it's for it's for improving and optimizing. Like we all want to get the highest quality sleep that we can get.
00;36;22;01 - 00;36;42;05
Dr. Mike Belkowski
Yeah, I think I kind of fall under that category where I wasn't looking to, quote unquote, improve my sleep, but it inherently just based on what it does physiologically. So again, that's why I can't I can't speak highly enough about it because of its impact. Even if you think you are very healthy and you're not using it, I think it can move you that extra 1 or 2 or 5%, you know?
00;36;42;06 - 00;36;58;12
Dr. Mike Belkowski
Yeah, a pound effect, of course, that has a huge effect long term. What is the best option for plain travel, where weight can be a consideration for your carry on and or check in what? And of course there's not going to be weighted blankets in the hotels or right. Do you. So like what's the best travel option
00;36;58;14 - 00;37;20;29
Elizabeth Grojean
Yes. So I think the best option, if you really have incorporated a weighted blanket into your sleep stock and you want to have that with you, where you're going is the the lap blanket, we call it the Daydreamer. We are relaunching all of our blankets. Come with that tote bag included. But we are remaking our tote bag for that one, specifically with the luggage.
00;37;21;01 - 00;37;32;19
Elizabeth Grojean
Gosh, I find that so can slip slip over your carry on luggage within the tote bag. So it's just a sleeve it goes. Yes, a sleeve for your suitcase, for your roller bag. That makes it easier.
00;37;32;21 - 00;37;35;13
Dr. Mike Belkowski
And that one is. Did you say 20 pounds?
00;37;35;16 - 00;37;46;04
Elizabeth Grojean
That one is only 8 pounds. But it's still plays. Gotcha. So you could put that on top of you to get to sleep. It might move off you while you sleep but it would help you get to sleep faster for sure.
00;37;46;06 - 00;37;55;05
Dr. Mike Belkowski
And when you're traveling air travel right. You've to have that versus not have that in the hotel room is, I imagine, a big difference. Of course.
00;37;55;07 - 00;38;05;19
Elizabeth Grojean
It can be really helpful. We have a review or someone said that every time they travel they order a cheap way to blanket off Amazon, and then we turn it off when they don't have ours. And I'm like, oh no, that's horrible.
00;38;05;24 - 00;38;07;20
Dr. Mike Belkowski
It works. But like keep it.
00;38;07;22 - 00;38;08;27
Elizabeth Grojean
A wasteful.
00;38;08;29 - 00;38;16;02
Dr. Mike Belkowski
Return it. Yeah, well people are always going to do that I suppose. But they feel that, like the impact of your product that much that they're.
00;38;16;04 - 00;38;17;13
Elizabeth Grojean
They want to have it with them.
00;38;17;13 - 00;38;18;25
Dr. Mike Belkowski
Or what else. Well, I'm.
00;38;18;25 - 00;38;29;25
Elizabeth Grojean
Hoping we are hoping to partner with more hotels because I do think that can be a very nice sleep upgrade for people to experience. That way, if anyone running a hotel hears this, please contact me.
00;38;29;28 - 00;38;32;02
Dr. Mike Belkowski
Yeah, absolutely. And where can they contact you?
00;38;32;04 - 00;38;38;07
Elizabeth Grojean
Website or hair care at Blue living.com is our customer service address and I'll get it for sure.
00;38;38;09 - 00;38;54;01
Dr. Mike Belkowski
Cool. Elizabeth, just on a topic of sleep, what are some other hacks that are non-negotiable or that have moved the needle for you drastically? Maybe not to the to the significance of the the weighted blanket, but what else has been an impact for your sleep?
00;38;54;06 - 00;39;24;11
Elizabeth Grojean
So I, I do have this super sleeping skill. I don't use a sleep tech device. I should I really should try that. The thing I've been doing the past quarter, I would say that it's been giving me the best impact in my well-being overall. And I think sleep as well has been Breathwork Hollow Tropic Breathwork. And I'm working with a coach, and I've started to do 20 minutes every morning with a playlist, and it has been insane.
00;39;24;18 - 00;39;34;19
Elizabeth Grojean
I mean, I love it so much, I don't want to do it most days, but then I'm so glad I did. It's like exercise, I guess. Yeah, yeah. So that's then my newest discovery that I really love.
00;39;34;22 - 00;39;36;11
Dr. Mike Belkowski
Do you use a lap blanket with it?
00;39;36;14 - 00;39;47;28
Elizabeth Grojean
Yeah, I use a lap blanket, a red light mask on my face, and that's how I kind of like make the most of the time. I, like, know that I'm doing my skin and my my mental health at the same time.
00;39;48;04 - 00;39;51;07
Dr. Mike Belkowski
That's amazing. Hollow. So you just do it in the morning.
00;39;51;10 - 00;40;13;02
Elizabeth Grojean
I just do it in the morning and I do it after I get to the office, because the mornings at my house are a little bit chaotic, but after I get to work and I do it as part of my workday because it's gives me such a more clear clarity, you know, when you're trying to run a business and it's like a bunch of squirrels up there trying to clear out the space?
00;40;13;04 - 00;40;15;20
Dr. Mike Belkowski
Yeah, just kind of setting yourself before starting the big day.
00;40;15;22 - 00;40;16;21
Elizabeth Grojean
Yes.
00;40;16;23 - 00;40;20;00
Dr. Mike Belkowski
So you do that daily or virtually.
00;40;20;02 - 00;40;28;10
Elizabeth Grojean
Most days I, I have to correct myself. I would say I do it most workdays. It's really hard on the weekends at home, but I do it most workdays at the office.
00;40;28;13 - 00;40;42;27
Dr. Mike Belkowski
But to your point, and I'm sure this has taken some consistency, but I'm sure decreases stress centers yourself. You're more productive and then at night maybe you're not as stressed. Or maybe that just facilitates more organic sleep.
00;40;43;00 - 00;41;04;11
Elizabeth Grojean
Changes the quality of my my experience of my whole day. So I think it has to improve my sleep as well. I've I've gotten feedback from friends and family saying, you know, your vibe has shifted. You seem so much more grounded and peaceful, which is really remarkable to hear. People.
00;41;04;11 - 00;41;05;09
Dr. Mike Belkowski
Can tell.
00;41;05;12 - 00;41;18;23
Elizabeth Grojean
That. They can tell the difference. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I can feel it and I can tell it, you know, situations that might have gotten me hooked or triggered or anxious or upset reactivated in some way. They don't bother me, which is wild.
00;41;18;25 - 00;41;34;25
Dr. Mike Belkowski
That's huge. Right. Like you're, so you're less irritable. I mean, it makes sense, but to have the tangible results is probably pretty exhilarating. How did you choose how appropriate breathing? Or did you try other or and like, that was the one that worked or.
00;41;35;02 - 00;41;59;03
Elizabeth Grojean
I didn't try other method. I'm working with a coach right now who is Holy Fire Reiki and Breathwork coach. So we have three calls per month. And as part of the calls, usually there's a breathwork session. And she just kept suggesting to me that I ought to try incorporating breathwork into my daily routine. And finally I realized this is the professional person I'm paying and she's telling me to do this.
00;41;59;05 - 00;42;12;06
Elizabeth Grojean
I should try it. So I was like, I'll just try it for five days and see how it goes. And yeah, that was enough. It was profound. So I just have told her so many times over and over. I'm so grateful for that one, that one thing.
00;42;12;10 - 00;42;14;25
Dr. Mike Belkowski
And so you'll probably continue that.
00;42;14;28 - 00;42;15;26
Elizabeth Grojean
I'll continue. That was a.
00;42;15;26 - 00;42;17;26
Dr. Mike Belkowski
Beauty just because it's such a keeper.
00;42;17;29 - 00;42;24;27
Elizabeth Grojean
Yeah. And I would have to say, even this past week I haven't been on the train as much. I've missed a bunch of days.
00;42;25;00 - 00;42;26;29
Dr. Mike Belkowski
Are you in New York City?
00;42;27;02 - 00;42;28;16
Elizabeth Grojean
I'm actually in Texas now.
00;42;28;20 - 00;42;29;07
Dr. Mike Belkowski
You're in Texas.
00;42;29;07 - 00;42;43;04
Elizabeth Grojean
Okay, Antonio. Yeah, but I've just had stacked days like I've been resisting it a little bit because the more I fall off the wagon, the harder it is to get back on. But I really can tell the difference. So. Yeah. Yeah, I'm getting back on.
00;42;43;06 - 00;42;49;17
Dr. Mike Belkowski
In terms of blue living, what's next? If anything, I know. I mean, you've.
00;42;49;20 - 00;42;50;07
Elizabeth Grojean
Yeah, I.
00;42;50;07 - 00;43;00;08
Dr. Mike Belkowski
Know you've already spoken to like some potential business collaborations or how you're improving different aspects of like packaging or accessories. What else is coming in the future?
00;43;00;10 - 00;43;06;29
Elizabeth Grojean
I'm really interested. I've been going to Dave Ashby's biohacking conference every year for, yeah, I got.
00;43;07;01 - 00;43;11;27
Dr. Mike Belkowski
Bio light. Was there like kind of shoved in the hallway. Well, like we got someone's booth, like backed out at the last second I.
00;43;11;27 - 00;43;15;27
Elizabeth Grojean
Missed you, I wish known I should have come and talk to you. Oh.
00;43;15;29 - 00;43;26;05
Dr. Mike Belkowski
No. Because our entire booth and all of our products didn't even arrive. So we had kind of a blank booth. It was. Yeah, but we had a lot of great conversations nonetheless. Well.
00;43;26;08 - 00;43;48;19
Elizabeth Grojean
We'll be back. Valuable event. Yeah, well, I think we'll be there next year too. Yeah. So I really love that event. It's so invigorating and a lot enlivening to be with so many people who are so empowered in their own health journey. And while I mean I shouldn't say any, we're not departing from sleep. Sleep is always core to health, and it's and it's an amazing market.
00;43;48;19 - 00;44;16;20
Elizabeth Grojean
And we have a tool that makes a difference and is effective and works for sleep. I'm personally very interested and inspired and always have been since my experience in Bali. With this feeling of coming back to myself and and being in my body, like being so grounded in my body through deep pressure touch, basically. And so I'm very interested in exploring ways that we can connect our product more to experiences and communities.
00;44;16;20 - 00;44;43;27
Elizabeth Grojean
Exploring mindfulness meditation. And I I'm still not sure how this works exactly, but it retreats so maybe it's where this six senses a visa has our products in stock, and then facilitators or retreats who come through there can incorporate them as props. That's my my kind of directional vision. Less sure about how and when, but that's where we're headed.
00;44;43;29 - 00;44;46;27
Elizabeth Grojean
That's again, body wellness. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00;44;46;27 - 00;45;00;20
Dr. Mike Belkowski
No doubt you'll pull that off. I mean we're getting to the top of the hour here. Elizabeth I know you got to go here shortly. Are there any other words of wisdom that we haven't talked about health and wellness wise, sleep wise, whatever that you want to propagate to the audience.
00;45;00;20 - 00;45;32;20
Elizabeth Grojean
Here, drink a lot of water. I wish, I wish I knew to be gentle with ourselves. I think that there's so much that we're messaged with that we, you know, could or should do to optimize our sleep or our health overall. And I think Baby Steps is great. Like, if we could just do a little bit better every day or try to reinforce one habit over time until it gets rooted in established, and I'm looking at myself with my breathwork and not be overwhelmed, maybe with all of the things that we could or should do for our health.
00;45;32;25 - 00;45;42;18
Elizabeth Grojean
That's the thing that there for me right now. I wish I had some some greater, bolder words of wisdom or saying perfect. But being gentle with ourselves is never bad.
00;45;42;20 - 00;46;02;18
Dr. Mike Belkowski
And that's a great point on multiple levels. But to your point of there's so many things you can do for your health. There's so much information. We live in the information age. It's so easy to get overwhelmed just by trying to navigate and sift through, you know what's legit or you know what's like a snake oil. You know, I think being gentle on yourself is a is a great way of putting it on, on multiple levels.
00;46;02;18 - 00;46;03;16
Dr. Mike Belkowski
So I love that.
00;46;03;19 - 00;46;04;04
Elizabeth Grojean
Yeah.
00;46;04;07 - 00;46;11;02
Dr. Mike Belkowski
Where can people go to learn and follow more about you and Baloo living? Check out your products and just follow your journey.
00;46;11;04 - 00;46;24;12
Elizabeth Grojean
So our website is Baloo living.com. That's like Baloo the bear from The Jungle Book. We're always my favorite and our Instagram is Baloo living. And that's probably the best two places to find out more.
00;46;24;14 - 00;46;30;01
Dr. Mike Belkowski
And again, it was care at Baloo living.com. Yes, for people to reach out for.
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Elizabeth Grojean
Customer service or any inquiry at all.
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
That's a perfect.
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Elizabeth Grojean
We're a small team, so I'll get it.
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
Wonderful. Well, Elizabeth, this has been such a fun conversation. I appreciate you taking the time to enlighten us with your weight blanket.
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Elizabeth Grojean
Thank you. Thanks.
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
Elizabeth Grosjean, this is Doctor Michael Kowski signing off another episode of the Red Light Report. Everyone, I hope you have a fantastic week and I'll see you on the next episode.
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