In this episode of The Energy Code, Dr. Mike Belkowski sits down with BioLight’s CMO Don Bailey for a practical, plain‑spoken dive into mitochondrial health. They unpack why “energy” is the central determinant of healthspan, how mitochondria act as environmental sensors, and what redox potential and electrons have to do with sunlight, movement, stress, and technology exposure. You will hear actionable guidance on circadian rhythm, morning light, and stress reduction—plus a primer on calcium signaling, mytophagy and autophagy, and food–light mismatches. It is a macroscopic primer designed to make the science usable.
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
Welcome to the Energy Code, the show that unlocks the secrets of your mitochondria from light, water, and magnetism to powerful molecules and proven lifestyle upgrades. We will continuously search for and add to what I've dubbed the Mitochondrial matrix by decoding the most efficacious signs and strategies, ultimately providing the blueprint for limitless vitality. This is the energy code. I'm your host, Doctor Michael Koski.
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
All right, everybody, welcome back to another episode of The Energy Code.
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
And this is for the energy code and really for the Red lab report, if we go retro, the first episode where we'll do this relatively informal Q&A with you longtime listeners, you'll remember Don Bailey from last year. So I interviewed Don in June or so, and he came on the podcast and just gave his his taken his feedback on his experience with integrating red light therapy and then methylene blue into his life.
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
And he's kind of the classic person that sits in front of the computer a lot. Very high stress job. And so with his body and biology, we introduced him to red light therapy. Then methylene blue and carbon 60 to hear his anecdotal experience was pretty powerful. Long story short, Don is now part of the bio light team. He is the CMO.
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
He runs the marketing and helping with the website, amongst many other things. So he's officially a part of the bio light team now. And so as I was saying, at the top of this long soliloquy, we'll start doing these relatively informal FAQ like podcasts where we're depending on the topic. Don will ask some of the most asked questions to a relative topic.
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
I think today we're going to focus on the mitochondria, and then I'll just give my my thoughts or answers to the questions. I don't even know what questions he's going to ask. So it's really me just shooting from the hip with my knowledge and expertise, based on what I've been learning throughout the years. And and also, I think this is just a good way because with my true solo codes, we kind of get into the weeds and can get a little deeper into the science.
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
And while we may go there a little bit today, I think this will be a little more macroscopic view that will help people who are wanting to understand a little more of the basics of a certain topic, and maybe some applicability of a certain topic. So you're not left with leaving a solo zone with maybe some interesting information, but it's like, what do I do with that?
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
So hopefully we can add some applicability. Applicability. Excuse me. And then don't you have any other thoughts or.
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Don Bailey
No, that's perfect I think what the name the energy code people. One of the questions we should answer at the onset is why energy? Why is that important and why does that matter to people? Why is this an important topic that, you know, you've essentially set out as your life mission?
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
Yes. But before we get there, I just thought of this before you start, get rambling with the questions you and I have had dialog on in daily but over the years. But I'd love for you to share with the audience what attracted you. I mean, you talked about it with our my interview to you, but let's re articulate it here and maybe go a little deeper if you want.
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
Why were you so attracted to what bio is trying to accomplish, and what have you learned in the past year and, year to year and a half that you've been along for the ride?
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Don Bailey
That's a great question. And I've spent a lot of time thinking about this question, especially since the last time we did an interview at the very base I, I want to do something that helps people. So that's at the very base. My first introduction into my life was that it helped me tremendously. It is quick to reach a level of burnout, or being overworked or unmotivated to do your job in so many different sectors, especially, you know, the high functioning software development, blockchain technology space.
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Don Bailey
So when I experienced the benefits of methylene blue and red light therapy, the first thing was, oh man, I got to have other people experience this. My mother has lupus, and one of the things that it does an autoimmune disease, is it attacks your energy first. You know, you become less able to move as effectively or expend as much energy as people typically do on a day to day basis.
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Don Bailey
And to see my mother's turnaround with her energy levels. My grandma now uses methylene blue and carbon 60, and red light therapy. All right. And she uses hydrogen as well. So my entire family were using these supplements and the amount of energy output that my entire family is experiencing, from opening new businesses to I go to four baseball games a week for my little brother.
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Don Bailey
And my entire family is there. It's been phenomenal in my personal life. So the reason why I was drawn to bio light is one. It helped me, and I know for a fact that this can help other people, and that's ultimately what I want to do with my life is be beneficial to the world.
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
Amen. And with that, let's get into the crux of the mission, like you alluded to of myself. And that's what Biola has become ultimately is a byproduct of my passions or my interests. And I think your missions and motives align, which is why you're such a great fit with myself and bio light. So let's just start with your first questions, which are going to be some big ones, but let's start.
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Don Bailey
Yeah. So I know I asked the question previously why energy? And it'll lead into the second question. Tell me more about the mitochondria.
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
So why energy. And I think for the vast majority of people when we hear energy, maybe we think of the downstream effects of drinking coffee or drinking a Red bull or a stimulant of some sort like that produces energy, which it does. But when we think about health and wellness at its core, fundamental, when we think of healthspan, another way of seeing longevity, living longer but healthier for longer, it comes down to the amount of energy you can produce.
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
Purcell. Again, this is not the same as drinking coffee or a stimulant or what have you, which gets you energized. But is it energy at a fundamental physiological level? To your point, Dawn, with your mom, lupus? Low energy? So what does that tell us right off the bat? Mitochondrial dysfunction, which we'll get into with the second question. But energy is important because that drives all the physiological processes just at a very basic level, how your hormones work, how your neurotransmitters work, how's your blood flowing?
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
Just how was your mood and behavior? How's your motivation? All of that comes from energy, which at its fundamental level is ATP, adenosine triphosphate. That's what the mitochondria produce. And at a very basic level, I keep saying this, but a very basic level. And this comes from Doctor Doug Wallace, who I've mentioned many, many times on this podcast, who is considered the top mitochondrial researcher in the world.
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
From a bioenergetics perspective, the more energy you produce, the healthier you are. Conversely, or the opposite side of that coin is, the less energy you produce. Purcell, the less healthier, the closer to a state of disease or even cancer you will be. So from that paradigm alone, one who was motivated to optimize their health or recover from a current condition would be best like their allocated energy or funds or knowledge base would be best allocated towards learning how to improve their energy at a very root cause.
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
Root level, foundational level. And that's where we can get into the mitochondria. But again, to bolster the reason, that's why the Energy Code is the new name of the podcast from the Red light Report. The red light report started as red light therapy specifically. We've certainly grown and expanded our horizons from a knowledge base on this podcast. And so we wanted a title that would fit in more well, encompass what we're trying to cover topic wise on this podcast, which is essentially anything that positively or negatively affects the mitochondria.
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
And like, what are some applications, for better or worse, to either improve or mitigate those consequences? And we could have called the podcast like the Mitochondrial podcast or like mitochondria radio like or something. Right. But like that's very sciencey. I think the term mitochondria will become very popular in the coming years, but we're still in the kind of on the early stage of that hockey stick, that parabolic takeoff.
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
So there's still a lot of education to be had for understanding how and why the mitochondria. But we're getting there. So hence we wanted to have a podcast title that was more encompassing, not so sciencey or geeky, if you will, just to bring more people in. Right? Well, like we want to we're trying to get this message out to as many people as possible to positively affect their lives so they can truly understand how and why the mitochondria are important, and how and why or what techniques they can instill or integrate.
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
Because at the end of the day, and we've all learned this kind of post Covid, no one is more interested in your health, especially centralized, than yourself. So if you can educate yourself, if you can learn, if you can be empowered with strategies and techniques that truly move the needle, that move you further and further away from a reliance on a centralized paradigm, then the better off you are in the short term and the long term especially.
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
So that's kind of the mission of this podcast. So move to that. Second questions. We started with Why Energy, which perfectly segue into what do the mitochondria do? Before we met, what was your notion of the mitochondria, if anything at all?
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Don Bailey
Yeah. So you learn in middle school the mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell. That's pretty much the term that we all use. What's the mitochondria? Well, it's the powerhouse of the cell. And when I think of the powerhouse of the cell I'm like, oh well it's just powering the cell. I'm not. And after, you know, being around you for this long, I now know that the powerhouse of the cell means a lot more than just powering your cell.
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Don Bailey
Your body is essentially cell. So the powerhouse of the body.
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
Right. And I think that's a good example of what most people think of when they hear mitochondria, if they're familiar with it at all, that fourth or fifth grade definition, the powerhouse of the cell, the powerhouse of the cell, or even if it's in a health book and they're like mentions the mitochondria, it's the mitochondria which are the powerhouse of the cell.
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
And then you move on, which it's true, but it's not impactful whatsoever. But the more you go down, this rabbit hole, which again, I graduated as a physical therapist in 2016, zero intentions of really doing anything else but being a physical therapist. And here we are almost ten years later at this point, which is crazy. You know, I'm like entrenched in the mitochondrial longevity biohacking spheres.
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
And it has become a very true passion of mine to dig deeper and deeper and deeper into the hows and whys. And it's going to be never ending, which is partly what I love. There's always more to learn, and we're always going to know, just like a fraction of anything ever, which can be a little demoralizing. But that's part of the fun, I suppose.
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
But anyway, I got into red light therapy kind of haphazardly and that's what led me down this mitochondrial road that began in late 2018. So been at it for the better part of seven years, I guess at this point, even then, when I first started bio like when I first like started going down the initial rabbit holes of the mitochondria, I didn't know what I was in for.
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
I didn't realize it would lead to this, in my opinion, like a very profound paradigm for health and wellness and like health as well. So like at the end of the day, if you don't have your health, what do you have? Which is why I'm so excited and really grateful that I've kind of stumbled upon this information and I've kind of gotten into this research mode of mitochondria because it truly can and will impact anyone that's willing to learn and implement.
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
So again, energy is important because it drives everything in your body and it is health or it is the lack thereof in the mitochondria are important because they are the ones that produce the vast majority of all the energy in your body, upwards of 95% of all the energy in your body is produced by the mitochondria. Then we go back to the bioenergetics equation.
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
The more energy you produce. So the healthier you're going to be. When we say energy, Percell, that means the mitochondria are inside of the cell. So we're going at a sub cellular level. And then to think about it a little more specifically, that means the more energy a cell requires, the more mitochondria there's going to be. So, for example, well, I think when I gave my presentation in in Rome last year, one of my slides was like, how many mitochondria are in a cell like in different types of cells?
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
And I think the one that was had the least amount of mitochondria. Purcell was like your hair cells. So even that hair, that seems like it's not really a living thing. It had maybe a couple of dozen mitochondria per cell, and then it goes upwards to like the skin and the bone and different organs. Then you get to the top or little ones that are most mitochondria dense.
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
I mean, this makes sense because they require the most energy in your body to function normally, such as your heart in your brain and your skeletal muscle, eyes, liver. Those are kind of like the top five, but the brain or just the nervous tissue, so even your spinal cord or your peripheral nerves. But of course, your brain has upwards of millions of mitochondria per cell.
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
That's a double edged sword, because when your mitochondria mitochondria are running optimally, your mental acuity is perfect. It's optimized. You're moving behavior. You're your motivation is just running as it should. But for a myriad of environmental factors which we can get into, there can be a quicker or a more rapid decline in those organs that have more mitochondria because there's more of them to potentially become dysfunctional.
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
So that's why neurodegeneration, cardiovascular ophthalmology. So your eyes those are some of the first and most markedly degraded organs in our body as we chronologically go about our lives. And please. But in the end, if you want some clarifications or you want me to go down a certain rabbit.
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Don Bailey
Yeah. So I was actually when you were talking specifically about the brain and the mitochondria in the brain. I remember when you were speaking in Nashville at the Return to Nature Quantum Retreat, there was one slide that you gave that absolutely stood out to the audience, and you were referencing the amount of mitochondria in the body and how densely most mitochondria are located in the brain.
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
Yes.
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
At this point, I'm sure you guys have heard of methylene blue. You guys have heard me shout from the mountaintops many benefits of methylene blue, but let's just review it quickly for those who aren't familiar. So methylene blue is a major, major mitochondrial booster. It has a lot of similar properties as red light therapy, but they actually work slightly differently within the electron transport chain within the mitochondria.
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
As far as how they derive their benefits to the mitochondrial function. A couple of the. My favorite aspects of methylene blue include the fact that when you ingest it, the majority of the methylene blue ends up in your brain. So that's why you see these amazing mental energy boosts from methylene blue. It can even stave off or prevent or reverse some types of neurodegenerative diseases like Alzheimer's, Parkinson's.
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
This is my second favorite part about it. So methylene blue has this innate sense to help the cells that are most metabolically dysfunctional. It goes and helps cells that have the most mitochondrial dysfunction first before helping other cells. So not only does it help cells that need the help most, but again, most of the methylene blue ends up in your brain, where that is the most mitochondrial dense tissue in the body.
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
That's why you see all these amazing benefits with the brain, with methylene blue. And maybe most importantly, as it relates to this podcast and people who are a fan of red light therapy, red light therapy in methylene blue are major synergistic. So of course you have your independent benefits when you just use methylene blue or when you just use red light therapy.
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
But when you combine them together, you amplify the benefits of one another and you get the synergistic response. So anyone that's interested in red light therapy should at least be considering or looking into the many benefits of methylene blue. And as you know by now, if you've been listening to this podcast, my company, Bio Light, has released an enhanced Methylene Blue product that includes certain ingredients like NMN in the further boosts the energy production of the mitochondria.
00;16;57;26 - 00;17;26;26
Dr. Mike Belkowski
It also enhances the photodynamic activity already associated with methylene blue by including colloidal gold, silver, which have their own antimicrobial or cognitive benefits, silver and gold, respectively. But they also have their own photodynamic benefits as well. So again, you're amplifying the benefits of red light therapy when you ingest this bio blue. Lastly, we include folic acid because folic acid helps you absorb anything that you're consuming when you're also taking it with folic acid.
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
So it drives everything deeper into the cells. So theoretically when you take bio blue, it helps further absorb the methylene blue the man and the chloro gold and silver. So you get this enhanced methylene blue product with bio blue. And so of course for my loyal listeners, especially you guys that have listened this far into the ad in the middle of the episode here, I'm going to give you guys 15% discount on your order of bio blue, and you can apply that to a single pack or a double pack, or a four pack or a ten pack.
00;17;55;20 - 00;18;31;23
Dr. Mike Belkowski
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
Go ahead and give bio lights, methylene blue, enhanced product, bio blue a shot and see what you notice, especially when you combine it with your red light therapy treatments.
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
So I think this is how it goes. I don't have it so so don't reprimand me if I incorrectly say this, but I think I'll get the numbers close enough. So there's a 100,000 electrons running through a given electron transport chain, and this is the electron transport chain is inside of your mitochondria and it lives up to its name.
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
Electrons run through it in a very complicated, nuanced way, ultimately leading to energy production and metabolic water production. Equally important, the energy in the water. So we have 100,000 electrons running through the electron transport chain in one mitochondria. And there is I don't remember the what the exponential number was, but at the end of the day there is 1 sextillion, which I think is one times ten to the 26th power, 1 sextillion electrons running through all your electron transport chains in your body per second, which is statistically significant, like it's exponentially more powerful than the most powerful quantum computer in the world, which then really justifies and demonstrates how complex and amazing our bodies are.
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Don Bailey
Can we stop here and talk about the electron specifically for just a minute?
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
Yeah. What about them?
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Don Bailey
So there are two scenarios, right? A body that has we'll just go to the extremes with me to kind of find the definition or convey the meaning to people like in the middle. So a body that has a surplus of electrons and a body that's deficient in electrons, what does a body look like that's deficient in electrons doesn't produce enough electrons.
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
It's not even about producing enough. It's about not accruing enough. So there's a couple of things I guess worth defining or thinking about here. The first one is a term called redox potential. That's a fancy way of saying what is your affinity for electrons. So this is I mean this is perfect for what you just demonstrated there. So you want a net negative charge in your body.
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
Electrons are negative I don't remember the exact Miller voltage, but you want to be close to I believe this is -30 millivolts or like -25 millivolts. If you get close to zero, you're already in a state of disease. You go into the positive range. That's like cancer and death. And that is like to your point, a person with very deficient electrons, that's a low redox potential.
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
You want high redox potential. That means high affinity for electrons, which is either through sunlight, grounding food and water.
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Don Bailey
And redox specifically is what.
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
Reduction oxidation.
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Don Bailey
Reduction oxidation. So if you have redox potential, that means you have a high likelihood of reducing oxidative stress.
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
I mean, yes, that's not what it means. But yes.
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Don Bailey
Okay. Yeah. That's what I'm.
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Dr. Mike Belkowski
So when you reduce something from a chemical perspective, you're adding electrons to the situation. When you are oxidizing, you're stealing electrons. And stealing is kind of like a negative connotation. Sometimes you do want one because when you're reducing one element you're also oxidizing another, hence dox. So when one is stealing, one is also gaining. There's always a give and take.
00;22;03;13 - 00;22;23;28
Dr. Mike Belkowski
Just like like energy can be created or destroyed. There's always, you know, the same amount, but that's a reduction. Oxidation is kind of like a very sciency term. So then they just shortened it to redox because it sounds okay. But redox potential again means your affinity to be able to accrue and utilize electrons. Hence like reducing the oxidizing.
00;22;24;00 - 00;22;47;29
Dr. Mike Belkowski
So and this is an interesting way to think about electrons. So light it's like the sun. It produces photons. Photons only interact with electrons. So just think about that for a moment. Photons only interact with electrons. They don't interact with protons. Are neutrons or bosons or whatever they talk about. On the Big Bang theory, only electrons. And this is possible.
00;22;47;29 - 00;23;10;13
Dr. Mike Belkowski
So if you listen to doctor Jack Kruse a lot and he doesn't mind not being politically correct, as a lot of you listeners know, who listen to him love his information regardless, but he makes a point to kind of throw shade, if you will, literally and metaphorically that people that live in California, because they have a lot of sun, they have that beautiful tan, yet they have extremely low vitamin D levels.
00;23;10;13 - 00;23;36;09
Dr. Mike Belkowski
So it's like, how is that possible? But if you think about the environment, they're living in, which is kind of like another aspect of this mitochondrial question, what are mitochondria? They're environmental sensors. So what is in Los Angeles? Well, a a ton of people. Erin. Utilize electronic devices. Electronic devices produce emfs non-native EMF specifically electromagnetic forces that are biologists not used to.
00;23;36;14 - 00;24;00;08
Dr. Mike Belkowski
So you compound the millions of people and each person has, you know, 10 to 12 devices hooked up to IoT, the Internet of Things, or Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, what have you. And you have that amount of non-native emfs in a small demographic. That's Hollywood. That's like news. That's where that's like central hub for that. So a lot of blue lit screens that they're just chronically submersed in.
00;24;00;10 - 00;24;19;19
Dr. Mike Belkowski
So you combine all of these interesting things. Plus they have a poor water supply, their affinity for electrons. So the redox potential is low because their environment is so poor even in the presence of the sun. So to bring this back again, photons only interact with electrons. People that live in Southern California are electron deficient because of their lifestyle, because of their environment.
00;24;19;21 - 00;24;39;11
Dr. Mike Belkowski
So they can even be exposed to the beautiful sunrays that they have down there. But due to their lifestyle, due to their environment, they have a low redox potential, which means even an interaction with that sunlight they're not receiving the benefits of because they have a relatively low amount of electrons in their body. That makes sense. Photons only interact with electrons.
00;24;39;14 - 00;25;03;09
Dr. Mike Belkowski
But at the very basic and I really want people to understand and grasp this redox potential just means how many electrons are you accruing versus losing again? Is that bio energetic balance? Are you producing energy or are you not in a given cell? Energy requires electrons. Electrons are the currency that run through the mitochondria to produce ATP and metabolic water.
00;25;03;11 - 00;25;05;29
Dr. Mike Belkowski
I'll let you go from there because I could keep going down different rabbit holes, but oh.
00;25;05;29 - 00;25;26;26
Don Bailey
No, that was beautiful. So and you answer both questions. What does it mean to have a deficiency in electrons and what does it mean to have a surplus. So I'm assuming if you can actually have a surplus, the surpluses you're utilizing and producing vitamin D from your exposure to the sun, can we take a kind of jump now that we've been talking about the mitochondria.
00;25;26;28 - 00;25;30;21
Don Bailey
So let's assume, for example, someone well.
00;25;30;21 - 00;25;35;17
Dr. Mike Belkowski
Maybe we want to kind of expound upon the mitochondria. So because that was a very.
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Don Bailey
Yeah that's yeah.
00;25;36;22 - 00;26;05;07
Dr. Mike Belkowski
So it's a very superficial look because the question should be I'm going to do your job now. Don't know as much as you should know. But the question should be, okay. The mitochondria, they interact with the sun. They're environmental sensors. Like what does that mean for like an applicable situation. So we get electrons from four main sources sunlight food and water grounding from the Earth and then burning stored fat.
00;26;05;09 - 00;26;31;24
Dr. Mike Belkowski
So any way we can optimize those or just integrate those into our daily life is inherently going to improve. Your redox potential is going to inherently improve your affinity to utilize electrons through the electron transport chain, produce that energy in metabolic water. So what are environmental factors that can detract or reduce your redox potential? These are the big ones.
00;26;31;24 - 00;26;53;23
Dr. Mike Belkowski
I think there's 4 or 5 here. The big ones blue light and our technology and all the screens inherently wrecks. Your melatonin production basically puts you in a chronic state of elevated cortisol and glucose levels. And then we have non-native emfs that'll and like we just talked about, kind of like the whole LA thing. New York is actually worse because you have more people in an even more dense area.
00;26;53;26 - 00;27;05;16
Dr. Mike Belkowski
But non-native emfs inherently lead to excess calcium release, which leads to like cytotoxicity, which is, long story short, not good. Think about calcifying your pineal gland. It can.
00;27;05;23 - 00;27;06;24
Don Bailey
Oh yeah.
00;27;06;26 - 00;27;38;05
Dr. Mike Belkowski
You can also increase your glucose and cortisol levels. But most importantly, it really disrupts the electron transport chain in the whole energy production. And then lastly it dehydrates you. And what do the mitochondria do besides produce energy metabolic water. Yeah. So non-native emfs are terrible for for the mitochondria. So we have blue screens or blue light, just that pure blue light from technology, non-native emfs, lack of exercise or lack of movement because that's another way to move electrons through.
00;27;38;05 - 00;28;02;05
Dr. Mike Belkowski
So if you're stagnant, stagnant body, stagnant mitochondria, you're not going to produce energy as efficiently. And then we have stress is the number potentially the number one reason we're actually talking about this for a different reason. Pre-recording. But I think a lot of people live with a quote unquote high stress level that we've just become accustomed to. It's normal.
00;28;02;05 - 00;28;24;10
Dr. Mike Belkowski
Right? So to actually be calm and relaxed is is very foreign. But from a mitochondria perspective, elevated cortisol levels leads to mitochondrial dysfunction. And that can be physiological stress. I mean, that could be psychological stress or that could be physical stress. Do you like exercise too much or are you just unhappy or depressed or anxious or stressed person in general?
00;28;24;12 - 00;29;07;17
Dr. Mike Belkowski
All those different ways your mitochondria are sensing what's going on and then your relationship with sunlight. So or just light in general, we've become a society of indoor living, barely getting outside. And then a compound that issue. We've demonized sunlight. So we must put on sunscreen. We must put on sunglasses, we must put on clothes and hats and anything to cover up our skin and eyes, which is a massive detriment to your physiology redox potential as well, because the best way to repair and regenerate and build resilience for your body at a cellular level is with UV and air.
00;29;07;17 - 00;29;31;08
Dr. Mike Belkowski
Light. And what does the sun have in spades, both of those frequencies. So it's not by mistake. I don't believe that we, whoever we is, those that are in the higher powers have demonized the sunlight because they know it's the cure. And actually there's research out there that shows the more sunlight exposure you get. It literally decreases your mortality rate.
00;29;31;10 - 00;29;40;04
Dr. Mike Belkowski
Those that get more sun exposure compared to those that get the least lived two and a half times longer, on average, are like the mortality rates cut by two and a half times, I should say.
00;29;40;06 - 00;30;00;10
Don Bailey
Well, so all right. You used two terms that I was reading and I saw both of them not use separately. What together you use signaling for the mitochondria like a use of the mitochondria. Beyond energy. Is signaling right or calcium signaling. Can you kind of touch on that just a bit.
00;30;00;14 - 00;30;34;10
Dr. Mike Belkowski
So calcium is typically sequestered in the endoplasmic reticulum which is used to produce proteins and such when there are foreign environmental things going on. Like I alluded to, non-native emfs or chronic stress, it will open these, or whether it's like a calcium gated channel or of sorts when working normally, calcium is utilized like kind of as a token, as, as it normally should to operate a program or normalize neurotransmitter production or mobilization of.
00;30;34;10 - 00;31;02;26
Dr. Mike Belkowski
But again, when we have these things, like I keep harping on the non-native EMF because that's the biggest one, it deregulate how these calcium channels or like this endoplasmic reticulum should work and excess calcium is released, whether it's into the cytoplasm or like the cellular matrix. And that excess calcium leads to like overstimulation of or excitable toxicity, which literally then kills the cells.
00;31;02;26 - 00;31;36;21
Dr. Mike Belkowski
Or if it's in your nerves or like your brain especially leads to neuro toxic, like a little pruning of your nerves or a lack of connection of your neurons, which you can imagine what that leads to when it happens in a large quantity or over over time if there's a preponderance of it. Right. Neurodegeneration. So things like taurine especially is good at sequestering the this excess release of calcium, kind of like carbon 60 is great at sequestering excess reactive oxygen species production.
00;31;36;24 - 00;31;53;12
Dr. Mike Belkowski
Each of those things calcium release and reactive oxygen species release normal levels are normal. They're they're there for a physiological purpose. It's when when it becomes excessive that these potential deleterious or disease like symptoms can occur. Okay.
00;31;53;16 - 00;32;05;00
Don Bailey
Is there any relation to the lack of mitochondria function and aging, or decrease mitochondrial output or energy output from the mitochondria in aging?
00;32;05;03 - 00;32;25;29
Dr. Mike Belkowski
Well, if we go back to the new bioenergetics definition, and we understand that the more energy you produce, it's kind of the crux of it all in the mitochondria, essentially produce almost all of the energy in your body, then it would make sense that the more optimized you can keep your mitochondria, the more you can have the balance in your favor of energy produced.
00;32;25;29 - 00;32;58;08
Dr. Mike Belkowski
Purcell. And at the end of the day, again, at a very root physiological level, to carry out all the purposes that they need to on a daily level, whatever that is inside your cells, inside your tissues, inside your organs. They have the adequate amount of energy. Then there's no disease like we're even talking about combating viruses or combating cancer cells or just building tissue, because think about how often your skin regenerates or the internal your gut lining, like all of our body parts regenerate.
00;32;58;11 - 00;33;21;01
Dr. Mike Belkowski
That requires energy to combat an attack on your immune system requires energy. If you do get sick, that requires a lot of energy. So imagine if you have a low redox potential or poor mitochondrial dysfunction, and then you get a virus. Those types of people are going to take much longer to recover and sometimes may not recover at all.
00;33;21;03 - 00;33;31;13
Dr. Mike Belkowski
So yes, mitochondrial function is in my potentially myopic belief, everything when it comes to vitality and healthspan.
00;33;31;15 - 00;33;48;25
Don Bailey
Oh wow. And so, and I think this will make sense on the other side of this question, can we talk about autophagy and my autophagy and then swing back to relate those processes to what it looks like in an older body versus a younger body?
00;33;48;28 - 00;34;13;26
Dr. Mike Belkowski
Yeah. And actually when you say younger and older, what's happened over the course of just the last couple of decades, keep in mind we've been around for hundreds of thousands of years. The last couple of decades, things that were adult onset, i.e. diabetes, i.e. even like overweight, let alone obesity, even cancers, those were adult things. Those are things that were supposed to happen in like the second half of your life and beyond.
00;34;14;00 - 00;34;45;21
Dr. Mike Belkowski
Those are things that are now happening to children. And even now at a at a more and more rapid rate. So again, that begs the question, what the heck is going on? Right. But but specifically to your question, my type of autophagy, those are programs, physiological programs that when you have a proper amount of energy or acting as they should in that they autophagy specifically is getting rid of and recycling dysfunctional cells.
00;34;45;21 - 00;35;19;17
Dr. Mike Belkowski
So and this is happening all the time without us even knowing it. Of course, we only know that it's not working when we become inflamed or when we come down with some type of disease or symptom. Excess oxidative stress. Because when cells become dysfunctional functional, which is a normal occurrence, of course, and they don't get broken down, recycled as they should via autophagy, then they are just lurking in the proverbial corners, not providing anything of benefit to the cells.
00;35;19;17 - 00;35;42;15
Dr. Mike Belkowski
And in fact, our pro-inflammatory release and cytokines release and oxidative stress. So they're actually adding to a burden to the cell, to the tissue, to the organ. So again, that's when autophagy is not working properly. Those are known as senescent cells. Those cells that are just lurking. Doctor Sandra Kaufman, one of my favorite longevity experts in the field, calls them zombie cells.
00;35;42;15 - 00;36;15;15
Dr. Mike Belkowski
These senescent cells. So then we take that concept to the mitochondrial level with my TFG. Now we can think of these dysfunctional mitochondria that are not being broken down, recycled in produce into something else as essentially mitochondrial zombies. Again, they're lurking somewhere inside the cell. They're not being productive, but they're producing excess free radicals or excess reactive oxygen species, which contributes to the overall oxidative load of a given cell.
00;36;15;17 - 00;36;35;01
Dr. Mike Belkowski
So when my tough AG is properly working, as it should, and it's being activated when there's dysfunctional mitochondria around, that's not an issue. Things are normal. But the issue gets compounded, at least at the mitochondrial level. I don't know if this happens at the cellular level, but the issue gets compounded when my top AG is not working and you have these.
00;36;35;04 - 00;36;37;13
Don Bailey
Like you have to your immune system needs energy.
00;36;37;17 - 00;37;03;04
Dr. Mike Belkowski
Or no. So these zombie mitochondria. So not only do they disallow healthy mitochondria from producing themselves reproducing themselves they themselves self propagate. And so you're actually rapidly working in the favor of mitochondrial dysfunction as those dysfunctional senescent zombie mitochondria self propagate self propagate self propagate.
00;37;03;11 - 00;37;05;08
Don Bailey
That means they're cloning themselves.
00;37;05;08 - 00;37;06;02
Dr. Mike Belkowski
Correct.
00;37;06;04 - 00;37;11;08
Don Bailey
And they're cloning the dysfunctional version of themselves, not creating a new version.
00;37;11;10 - 00;37;36;10
Dr. Mike Belkowski
And then they're secondarily disrupting normal mitochondria from self-replicating. Well, so you're like this ratio that you want of, you know, vastly superior functional mitochondria to dysfunctional, which I guess we could also call quality or high redox potential is now being flipped on its head. And now there's going to be a preponderance over time of dysfunctional. Well, a mitochondria.
00;37;36;12 - 00;38;01;02
Don Bailey
Wow. And so the scenario that I was kind of jumping ahead with, with the view system you were referring to, like as your body ages and you don't have enough healthy mitochondria, it takes you longer to become healthier. Now the scenario where not only do you have not have enough healthy mitochondria, but you have dysfunctional mitochondria and your immune system needs it for whatever sickness.
00;38;01;04 - 00;38;08;01
Don Bailey
Is that a scenario in which one the sickness never gets cured, or does it just takes substantially or exponentially longer for that?
00;38;08;04 - 00;38;32;04
Dr. Mike Belkowski
That depends on where the mitochondrial dysfunction is happening. Maybe it's happening way down in your toe in like a skin cell or a blood vessel or something. Because remember, like mitochondria are everywhere. Okay. What if the the situation you're outlining happens, like in your thyroid or your thyroid or your adrenals or your lungs, like your lymph system.
00;38;32;11 - 00;38;54;07
Dr. Mike Belkowski
What if it's happening in a, in an immune tissue or organ. Well that's a different scenario. Even then again there's typically has to take years and years if not decades and decades to come down with some type of disease like a, like a traditional disease of course. Where's the line drawn between non disease and disease. That's kind of arbitrary.
00;38;54;07 - 00;39;09;06
Dr. Mike Belkowski
I argue of course it begins at the mitochondrial level. So we should always be doing things to prevent and mitigate the development of these conditions. But you're saying is it reversible. Was that the question now.
00;39;09;08 - 00;39;33;14
Don Bailey
Well yes. Well that's the questions that I'll start asking towards the end of our talk today. But specifically in this scenario, I ask the question about mitochondria as it relates to aging. And then we you referenced it taking longer to recover from a disease or a sickness. And I think you just pointed out something that I don't think I'm necessarily grasped before.
00;39;33;17 - 00;39;47;01
Don Bailey
The cells that are in your kidney are different from the cells in your brain. So here is my question. Could you have isolated mitochondrial dysfunction in your brain, but regular mitochondrial function in your kidney at the same time?
00;39;47;03 - 00;40;08;24
Dr. Mike Belkowski
Of course okay. Based on your environment, it's partly based on your genomic blueprints. Meaning like what does your DNA actually say. So you're really good at detoxing. Some people are really poor about detoxing. And I actually have someone that I interviewed a little bit ago. We'll release that episode here in in a couple of weeks. That really dives into the implications of your DNA.
00;40;08;24 - 00;40;24;18
Dr. Mike Belkowski
And I think it's going to be really eye opening. But that's one thing I never considered necessarily is taking it as taking it seriously. Because when you get into the mitochondrial world, it's like, okay, the mitochondria, they actually have DNA, but their DNA is much more vulnerable than our nuclear DNA.
00;40;24;20 - 00;40;26;05
Don Bailey
Is that mtDNA.
00;40;26;10 - 00;40;49;22
Dr. Mike Belkowski
Correct? When you see it in the research, mitochondrial DNA much more vulnerable. And that's the reason why reactive oxygen species are so bad in excess is because they attack the mitochondrial DNA that leads to mitochondrial dysfunction, which leads to more oxidative stress, yada yada. But I think like to answer your question, your DNA blueprint may be able to tell you where you're more susceptible.
00;40;49;22 - 00;41;08;02
Dr. Mike Belkowski
Is it your cardiovascular? Is it your nervous system? Is your immune system, so on and so forth. But then your environment, of course, is going to dictate everything. Do you actually put a laptop on your lap because that's going to radiate the heck out of your reproductive system, your pancreas. Think about why Steve Jobs died and all these high tech guys.
00;41;08;04 - 00;41;30;02
Dr. Mike Belkowski
A lot of it was pancreatitis. If you have a laptop on your lap, it's going to irradiate your pancreas. What's your relationship with the sunlight? What is your circadian biology like? Is it easy for you to fall asleep at night? Do you get restful sleep? Is it easy for you to wake up in the morning? Because if it's not any one of those three, that alone, it's going to lead to some issues down the road in one form or another.
00;41;30;06 - 00;41;50;25
Dr. Mike Belkowski
So it's your propensity for certain things, but then it's what is your environment or what are your daily habits? Do you eat food that is local that makes sense for the time of year you're eating it and then, you know, bring this back to doctor Jack Kruse, who says lovingly says that people are idiots. If you eat a banana in Maine in the middle of winter.
00;41;50;27 - 00;42;08;27
Dr. Mike Belkowski
And he says, point out the nearest banana tree in Maine, and we can have this, a whole separate conversation, because I think this is really riveting, and it really explains why food does matter, because the light is imprinted on the food you eat. Like literally your mitochondria reads the electrons in the food you eat.
00;42;09;00 - 00;42;13;22
Don Bailey
But I mean, photosynthesis is necessary for growing the food. So that would make sense as well.
00;42;13;24 - 00;42;36;06
Dr. Mike Belkowski
Well, if we want to go there now, we can't. I mean, this comes down to the photoelectric effect with Albert Einstein back in 1922, where when we boil down to it, light affects the electrons in the food. Let's say it's carrots or whatever. It gives those electrons a certain spin state based on the color of light. So the spectra and the intensity of the light.
00;42;36;06 - 00;43;13;08
Dr. Mike Belkowski
Think of Montana versus Costa Rica for intensity. When you consume that food, it's been imprinted with that spin state. So if we me and Montana, if I eat a mango that was grown in the tropics, I'm eating a food with certain electron spin states with very intense UV light that I don't get in Montana in February. And if I eat that, hey, it's going to be deuterium loaded and B I'm going to gain fat, whereas someone who would eat it in its local locale would not, because the UV light offsets the high glucose and high deuterium content of that fruit.
00;43;13;10 - 00;43;40;12
Dr. Mike Belkowski
Whereas if I eat food local to Montana that's grown here, it's going to have that spin state from the sun with its very low UV. And then to bring this all together, the spin state is read by your mitochondria and that dictates its ability to pull its electrons and produce the ATP and metabolic water essentially. So at a very, very and I know that goes like very deep into the science.
00;43;40;12 - 00;43;40;18
Dr. Mike Belkowski
Yeah.
00;43;40;18 - 00;43;43;10
Don Bailey
We could have a quantum conversation about that.
00;43;43;12 - 00;44;14;19
Dr. Mike Belkowski
Explains how the light in your food interacts with your mitochondria. Your mitochondria reads that light and then does what it does based on those messages. And to really capture this, if I'm eating that mango that's from the tropics, I don't know where mangoes come from technically, but if I eat a mango, let's say from Costa Rica, if they grow there and I'm here in Montana in February, very overcast, very cold, I'm getting minimal UV exposure on my eyes, on my skin and so forth.
00;44;14;22 - 00;44;40;22
Dr. Mike Belkowski
Yet I eat the food that's encoded with very powerful light. That's a mismatch in my biology. My mitochondria are not going to like that, i.e. I'm going to be overloaded with deuterium mitochondrial dysfunction. And a lot of that food's going to go straight onto my body as adipose tissue. Well, whereas if I were to eat that high energy food in a high energy location near the equator, that would not happen.
00;44;40;24 - 00;44;41;24
Don Bailey
That makes sense.
00;44;41;26 - 00;44;44;15
Dr. Mike Belkowski
That's I just want to exemplify that because that's how deep it goes.
00;44;44;22 - 00;45;14;10
Don Bailey
Yeah. So your environment really does matter when it comes down to mitochondrial function. And I think we should do a part two of this. But if we were to kind of wrap everything up, we've learned so far just in one, simple statement or I guess I will if I'll ask it this way when people feel tired, given there can be multiple factors, would you relate that to the mitochondria?
00;45;14;12 - 00;45;22;26
Dr. Mike Belkowski
If a person is tired, if they're fatigued, yes. In one way, shape or form that can be mentally fatigued. Right? Right. But fatigued?
00;45;22;28 - 00;45;35;24
Don Bailey
No. So just being tired so and sure mentally fatigued physically fatigued I feel like let's refer to it as not necessarily exhaustion but low energy.
00;45;35;27 - 00;45;37;12
Dr. Mike Belkowski
Like if that's your normal.
00;45;37;14 - 00;45;43;10
Don Bailey
If your normal state is low energy, would you relate that to the mitochondria.
00;45;43;12 - 00;46;12;09
Dr. Mike Belkowski
1,000%, which should be liberating, because the whole point of this conversation is health is in your own hands, if you understand. So why we're getting back to like Doctor Doug Wallace, the mitochondrial researcher, he said upwards of 80% of modern diseases are directly tied to mitochondrial dysfunction, which again, should be liberating. Some people even say it's as high as 90 to 95% of all diseases and cancers are directly tied to mitochondrial dysfunction.
00;46;12;11 - 00;46;37;17
Dr. Mike Belkowski
Meaning if you are to instill things that improve or as I like to say, optimize mitochondrial function, you can surely mitigate and prevent a lot of these. Some of them you can even reverse depending on how long, how far along you are. But even cancers are reversible. We'll we'll get into some conversations about deuterium and the impact it has.
00;46;37;19 - 00;46;55;05
Dr. Mike Belkowski
But deuterium depletion is very anti-cancer. So even these things that we perceive as like the end of the road, like there's no going back, even those things can be reversible if we pay heed to certain aspects of a mitochondrial function. So we'll be covering all of that in more in future episodes.
00;46;55;07 - 00;47;14;18
Don Bailey
Yeah. So this is great. And just to kind of summarize everything that we went through, the focus on energy led you to focusing on the mitochondria when focusing on the mitochondria you found a couple things. One, it's more than just light. It's also a diet. But two, and I think this is a really important thing that I just learned.
00;47;14;21 - 00;47;41;28
Don Bailey
Your mitochondria oftentimes become so specific. And a reason for that cellular specificity is because the cells for the kidney do different things in the cells for the brain. But with that being said, it's important to highlight that when you take a mitochondrial approach to health, you also need to go deeper than just saying, my mitochondria in a vacuum, it's mitochondria for my kidneys, mitochondria for my hair.
00;47;42;05 - 00;48;06;20
Don Bailey
Right. There are unique, nuanced protocols, so to speak, when caring for your mitochondria, would you say and last question that I'll ask and I'll stop asking questions for here and leave it for a future episode. But if there were one thing that I could do right now to improve my mitochondrial efficiency, what would be your suggestion here? And you can't say.
00;48;06;20 - 00;48;08;29
Dr. Mike Belkowski
Buyable if there's one thing.
00;48;09;01 - 00;48;09;09
Don Bailey
Right.
00;48;09;13 - 00;48;09;26
Dr. Mike Belkowski
And again, we.
00;48;09;26 - 00;48;11;27
Dr. Mike Belkowski
Have to we have to take this question into.
00;48;11;27 - 00;48;35;23
Dr. Mike Belkowski
Consideration with the fact that health is n equals one because of your DNA, because of your environment and, and many other factors. So I mean, it's tough to answer this type of a question, but what should a person do if they could in their schedule? Actually there's two things. But but number one, like mitochondrial specific is getting sunlight exposure, sunlight exposure versus not getting.
00;48;35;23 - 00;49;03;22
Dr. Mike Belkowski
It literally sets you up for better sleep that night because while melatonin, which is a very powerful antioxidant, but it's very powerful for your my, my autophagy pathway as well. While melatonin is considered a a substrate or a molecule of night, because it helps you fall asleep, you actually start synthesizing it and setting yourself up for better melatonin production in the morning.
00;49;03;25 - 00;49;37;20
Dr. Mike Belkowski
So again, if you go sans morning sunlight, you're setting yourself up for poor restorative sleep. That night. And I think you could argue that sleep in a normal circadian rhythm is the foundation for, I'm going to say, health. But like when we're talking about mitochondria, because if you're tired and think about it at night when you're sleeping, if you're getting proper REM sleep, if you're getting proper deep sleep, that is literally the best way to restore your body, to rejuvenate your cells, to build resilience.
00;49;37;22 - 00;50;00;13
Dr. Mike Belkowski
It happens while you're sleeping. So if that isn't as good as it could be, you're leaving a lot on the table because not trickles into your next day and then your next night. And, you know, months go by, years go by, decades go by. So if your sleep, if your circadian rhythm isn't optimized, meaning then adding these tools, adding these molecules, it's like it's even if they're mitochondria specific is kind of like putting a Band-Aid on the situation.
00;50;00;13 - 00;50;30;02
Dr. Mike Belkowski
So I can't and I've been doing morning sunrise or like morning sunlight exposure since I first learned about it from Jacques Cruz back in 2019. So up to that point, I hadn't been paying any respect to the morning light or the power of sunlight and its various ways, but setting the stage for normalized circadian rhythm. And just think about where we were at in Nashville, the the quantum biology, or like the quantum health retreat.
00;50;30;06 - 00;50;31;26
Don Bailey
The quantum return of nature retreat.
00;50;32;00 - 00;50;48;17
Dr. Mike Belkowski
Yes, with Oksana Hanson and Carrie Bennett. And that's all predicated on quantum biology and circadian biology. So that is a very fundamental to mitochondrial function. So and guess what. That's free. It doesn't cost anything. It just cost your time and your consistency.
00;50;48;20 - 00;50;49;13
Don Bailey
Beautiful.
00;50;49;15 - 00;51;07;18
Dr. Mike Belkowski
The other one I was going to throw in there. And this is kind of a no brainer. But again I don't think we really pay heed to it, or at least and this is my personal I guess we want to call it the pillar of mitochondrial health. I need to focus on the most that stress reducing at all costs, because you literally can't lose weight.
00;51;07;20 - 00;51;27;17
Dr. Mike Belkowski
If your cortisol levels are always turned on, you're going to burn and fry at both ends of the candle. If your sympathetic nervous system is always turned on versus tapping into your rest and digest and slower parasympathetic nervous system, it's just going to wreak havoc on your entire biology if you're just chronically turned on all the time. So reducing stress.
00;51;27;18 - 00;51;40;11
Dr. Mike Belkowski
Whether that's meditation or just again, that's partly why I do the sunrise or the morning sunlight, because that's my time. Just like to sit down and relax and de-stress, if you will. So yeah, those would be my two.
00;51;40;16 - 00;51;41;01
Don Bailey
Awesome.
00;51;41;05 - 00;51;42;26
Dr. Mike Belkowski
Morning sunlight in distress.
00;51;42;28 - 00;52;01;18
Don Bailey
So I think what we need is a separate episode. The next one, whenever we do this again, and we should explore more of those solutions of what people can do to improve their mitochondria, and maybe even explore some of the things that you found out in your in the episode coming up where, you know, you discuss your DNA specific approach to health.
00;52;01;20 - 00;52;07;23
Dr. Mike Belkowski
Yeah. Sounds good. Yeah. We'll do a part two follow up to this. Maybe we can just do back to back weeks to make it as simple and easy.
00;52;07;26 - 00;52;08;27
Don Bailey
Sure.
00;52;09;00 - 00;52;28;04
Dr. Mike Belkowski
Yeah, we have a part to come and we'll dig into some more applications of why or how you can improve your energy, how you can optimize mitochondrial function, ways both that are for free or like if you want to implement tools or nutraceuticals or what have you, we'll kind of scour those applications and how to integrate them.
00;52;28;06 - 00;52;30;20
Don Bailey
Perfect. Thanks for having me, doctor. Mike.
00;52;30;22 - 00;52;42;22
Dr. Mike Belkowski
Dawn was a pleasure, man. We'll do this more clearly. We're going to do it again. But for Don Bailey, this is doctor Mike Markowski signing off another episode of The Energy Code. You guys have a great rest of your week.
00;52;42;25 - 00;53;06;09
Dr. Mike Belkowski
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00;53;06;12 - 00;53;27;16
Dr. Mike Belkowski
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