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In this episode of The Energy Code, Dr. Mike Belkowski sits down with Victor Sagalovsky, co-founder of Light Water Scientific, to unpack the science and practice of deuterium-depleted water (DDW). Victor explains how deuterium impacts ATP synthase and proton motive force, why lowering deuterium may support mitochondrial efficiency and resilience, and how lifestyle levers like fasting and ketosis fit into a broader “deuterium-depletion” strategy. You’ll also hear about Light Water’s production tech, practical dosing/dilution approaches, testing options, and the new BioLight x Light Water collaboration—using 10 ppm water in select BioLight formulations, including methylene-blue–based products for an amplified mitochondrial stack. If you’re curious about hydration, energy, and healthy aging, this conversation connects the dots from cellular mechanics to everyday habits.

00:00:00:00 - 00:00:19:28 — Victor Sagalovsky
And one of those is radical life extension. How to be happier. Healthier. Young. Very long. When deuterium brings up the mitochondria that disallows hydrogen peroxide from being produced, which then has a negative impact on oxidative stress, so on and so forth. A lot of things downstream, more often than not, positive benefits extended their lives past what they were told.

00:00:19:29 - 00:00:51:24 — Dr. Mike Belkowski
Some of them are told they'd live for like 3 to 6 months or even years. And years later. Welcome to the Energy Code, the show that unlocks the secrets of your mitochondria from light, water and magnetism to powerful molecules and proven lifestyle upgrades. We will continuously search for and add to what I've dubbed the Mitochondrial Matrix by decoding the most efficacious signs and strategies, ultimately providing the blueprint for limitless vitality.

00:00:51:27 - 00:01:26:13 — Dr. Mike Belkowski
This is the energy code. I'm your host, doctor Mike Koski. All right, guys, welcome to another episode. Depending on when this gets released chronologically. Welcome back to either the first interview or another interview on the Energy Code. And I've been looking forward to this conversation for quite some time. Today we're taking a deep dive into the cutting edge of health, hydration, and human longevity with a true pioneer in the field of deuterium depleted water.

00:01:26:15 - 00:02:08:23 — Dr. Mike Belkowski
Our guest is Victor Cyclops, co-founder of Lightwater scientific, the first company to bring ultra low deuterium water. Deuterium depleted water. Excuse me. Also known as light water to the world. Victor is a researcher, writer and health innovator whose work spans bioenergetics, quantum biology, and the science of aging. With a background that bridges both rigorous science and holistic wellness, Victor has dedicated years to uncovering how reducing deuterium in our bodies can profoundly impact mitochondrial function and thus energy production and ultimately lifespan or healthspan through light water.

00:02:08:23 - 00:02:32:14 — Dr. Mike Belkowski
Scientific. Victor has created the gold standard in deuterium depleted water, making what was once only a laboratory curiosity accessible to people who want to optimize their biology, support cellular health, and unlock unlock higher levels of vitality. So, without further adieu, Victor, thanks for joining me on the Energy Code. You get to be on your inaugural episode. Or maybe not.

00:02:32:16 - 00:02:53:14 — Dr. Mike Belkowski
We don't know where it's going to be at first, but we're certainly talking about something foundational to H2O. Yes, yes. And I say this has been a long time coming because like we were talking about pre-recording and I mentioned through email, you and I had initially met our companies, initially met back in October of 2021 at Biohacking Congress in Miami.

00:02:53:16 - 00:03:18:21 — Dr. Mike Belkowski
We were both speaking, and that was really one of my first experiences, or being exposed to deuterium water at an reclaimed water, uranium depleted water, and the awareness of the area, what it does in our own bodies to 1,000%. I mean, I'd heard some information on other podcasts, I think even Robert Slovak talking about it, talking about, excuse me, but that was our first or my first exposure to you.

00:03:18:21 - 00:03:34:27 — Dr. Mike Belkowski
And your company started drinking light water shortly after that for the better part of a year. And then it kind of, for whatever reason, fell off, fell off the habit wheel which which can happen. It's almost like you forget why you're taking things. And so, for whatever reason, I went to the wayside until recently within the last couple of months.

00:03:35:00 - 00:04:00:24 — Dr. Mike Belkowski
I read this book behind me. What's his name? Victor Gabor. So I'm like, oh, the version like, yeah, there you go. Yeah. So he he's done some deep research on to specifically the anticancer potential of deuterium depleted water, intense deuterium from the body. So there's a lot of exciting pathways here. And at the end of the day, there's a direct connection to the impact on the mitochondrial function.

00:04:00:27 - 00:04:21:16 — Dr. Mike Belkowski
I'll let you take it from here. Victor, just just give us your origin story. How did you get into deuterium depleted water. And then co-founding light water Scientific? I've always been a water researcher, you know, trying to understand the dynamics of water and the implications of water and the water you made up versus the water we drink. Got into that because I was a fruitarian for a number of years.

00:04:21:18 - 00:04:43:27 — Victor Sagalovsky
And so when you're fruitarian, water is real important like it's important for everybody. But in this case you really you really, you know, come to the consciousness that we are they say 75% water is what we learned. And then later I learned that we're 98.9% water by molecular weight. So everything every molecule in our bodies so much is attached to water.

00:04:44:00 - 00:05:12:14 — Victor Sagalovsky
So I was big in the water, hot springs, hiking through regular springs, finding springs, right, finding work and still at my job, and just understanding the dynamics of water because it all tasted different and then it all made you feel different. It all have different qualities. And then I started getting to the science of actually measuring it, the places I was going to bring my meters that measure everything page or conductivity TDs, you know, doing some other measurements too.

00:05:12:14 - 00:05:43:11 — Victor Sagalovsky
So really getting into the science of water. And then I came across this deuterium depleted water in 2004 and started reading about it. And I said, my goodness, the sounds, the sounds like what everybody should be drinking, certainly what I should be drinking too. So yeah, they can I have pretty good deductive reasoning skills. And so like, this is perhaps overlooked or just isn't time for yet, but everybody should be drinking terms with the water because clearly deuterium overload is the problem.

00:05:43:11 - 00:06:03:27 — Victor Sagalovsky
That's one of the key causes of aging. It's not the only cause of aging, but at least as far as your energy production in the mitochondria, it's as you can clearly see, where the vector is coming from. It's causing our mitochondria to break down and why we have less noise as we age. It's not just a given. Everything says, oh, that's just because you're getting older.

00:06:03:27 - 00:06:23:01 — Victor Sagalovsky
It's kind of like what is going on. But as I see people, you know, very rarely, but I see people even over 110 years old, very, very rarely that are, you know, like come through, mastered this great video on YouTube, by the way, that are for anybody half their age just right. So what's going on? What's going on with the energetics of life.

00:06:23:04 - 00:06:46:26 — Victor Sagalovsky
You know, because what we're told is not exactly true. So caught onto this. And, you know, I always I was always interested in glacial water. And I realized why I like glacial water more than any other water because there's no area we naturally gravitate towards something that's like, if you give light water to an animal or baby, you know, put two bowls out there, two glasses, person intuitively, or an animal intuitively goes for the light water.

00:06:46:27 - 00:07:05:19 — Victor Sagalovsky
Why? Because it's the path of least resistance. It's easier, like things like imagine waking up tomorrow and you're twice the way you are today. You're gonna have to learn how to how to live your life a little differently. So we like as well. We're all enamored by people jumping up and down and trampolines around the moon, and we all want to fly.

00:07:05:19 - 00:07:30:20 — Victor Sagalovsky
You know, we all like the levity of lives, but. And I have a T-shirt I made. Anti-Gravity isn't human, right? You know, we deserve it. And so we want to do it through water because we are water. So some water in nature. If you study the dynamics of water in nature, some water rises on its own. You know, there's different brightnesses, different levels of water in terms of where it's right for consumption.

00:07:30:22 - 00:07:53:06 — Victor Sagalovsky
And then when I got into the term heated water and realized that, look, this is the closest water that exists, if you can get do you get periods through the water? That's the that's the water that is the closest to the water that our bodies make. And so when you look into this and you go, wow, none of the water that we drink actually make it into any of those places in our body that matter.

00:07:53:08 - 00:08:19:02 — Victor Sagalovsky
What I mean by matter, it's like, you know, where the where the money stored, like the bank vault or where the energy is made, you know, the very center that matters where the seat of the seat of power is. So because the body rather make it itself, rather take the hydrogen oxygen, combine them, get energy and get metabolic water, pure water, because it wants water in crystalline state, because that's the path of least resistance for life.

00:08:19:05 - 00:08:42:06 — Victor Sagalovsky
So I wanted to drink this water and there was none to be had. And I tried making it myself. I failed, and it was the line at this point, this is from 2004. I read the first article on it and then and then got into the research and then kind of wanted it, like you said, forgot about it because there was not there was not around.

00:08:42:08 - 00:09:10:17 — Victor Sagalovsky
And then around 2012, 2014 started getting interested and interested in again. And I realized that if I were to be able to buy this water, I couldn't afford it. So I could only start a company around it so I could buy one of drinking myself. It was it was just not. Not that readily available is expensive. I went to Russia, you know, my partner, and share it out, because to find the people that were at the head of the research on this, because this is that's where it comes from.

00:09:10:17 - 00:09:37:02 — Victor Sagalovsky
It comes from universities in Siberia, comes from university here and former Soviet Union now Ukraine comes from Moscow. So there was water. And then and then of course, Romania, Hungary, they're also the number two. Right. That original time we're talking in the late in the in the late 50s, early 60s, the original research had been it piqued some interest because they go, okay, these people are living longer because of one factor.

00:09:37:05 - 00:10:01:03 — Victor Sagalovsky
Their water is lighter. Wow. That's significant. Really significant. So so a lot of study went into this while things are published in Russia, in the US, other places too, and we're national, but nobody's making VW this time. It just they just know the theory and the and they know that heavy water kill you and then no light water makes things grow better and stronger and healthy and live longer.

00:10:01:05 - 00:10:22:12 — Victor Sagalovsky
They're testing only natural sources, so no one's making a machine or try to make it way to because it's almost impossible. So it's you. It's you're trying to remove a type of water from another water. You're moving. Really? What's HDL, which is the deeper deuterium two hydrogen one oxygen one hydrogen one to terrorism. The original hydrogen being called protein.

00:10:22:12 - 00:10:45:02 — Victor Sagalovsky
So one protein one deuterium, one oxygen is heavier than a protein rhodium oxygen. Right. And this is where it screws everything up because the oxygen is too stupid to know the difference between the heavy and the light form of hydrogen. So that's where we're at. I wanted to drink this water, and I realized that it was I'm a dad.

00:10:45:02 - 00:11:05:12 — Victor Sagalovsky
So I knew that there are people working on it in Hungary and Romania and Russia. Now, I'm an immigrant from the Soviet Union, so I speak fluent Russian. So I say I'll take my chances there. So I found the people that were doing this and decided for partnership. And here we are today at this point, I'm sure you guys have heard of methylene blue.

00:11:05:12 - 00:11:28:12 — Dr. Mike Belkowski
Well, especially if you've been listening to this podcast for the last month or so, you guys have heard me shout from the mountaintops many benefits of methylene blue, but let's just review it quickly for those who aren't familiar. So methylene blue is a major, major mitochondrial booster. It has a lot of similar properties as red light therapy, but they actually work slightly differently within the electron transport chain within the mitochondria.

00:11:28:12 - 00:11:51:06 — Dr. Mike Belkowski
As far as how they derive their benefits to the mitochondrial function. A couple of my favorite aspects of methylene blue include the fact that when you ingest it, the majority of the methylene blue ends up in your brain. So that's why you see these amazing mental energy boosts from methylene blue. It can even stave off or prevent and reverse some types of neurodegenerative diseases like Alzheimer's, Parkinson's.

00:11:51:06 - 00:12:12:15 — Dr. Mike Belkowski
This is my second favorite part about it. So methylene blue has this innate sense to help the cells that are most metabolically dysfunctional. It goes and helps cells that have the most mitochondrial dysfunction first before helping other cells. So not only does it help cells, they need the help most. But again most of the methylene blue ends up in your brain where that is the most mitochondrial dense tissue in the body.

00:12:12:18 - 00:12:30:19 — Dr. Mike Belkowski
That's why you see all these amazing benefits with the brain with methylene blue. And maybe most importantly, as it relates to this podcast and people who are a fan of red light therapy, red light therapy in methylene blue are major synergistic. So of course you have your independent benefits when you just use methylene blue or when you just use red light therapy.

00:12:30:19 - 00:12:55:15 — Dr. Mike Belkowski
But when you combine them together, you amplify the benefits of one another and you get the synergistic response. So anyone that's interested in red light therapy should at least be considering or looking into the many benefits of methylene blue. And as you know by now, if you've been listening to this podcast, my company, Bio Light, has released an enhanced Methylene Blue product that includes certain ingredients like NMN, in that further boost the energy production of the mitochondria.

00:12:55:15 - 00:13:24:14 — Dr. Mike Belkowski
It also enhances the photodynamic activity already associated with methylene blue by including colloidal gold, silver, which have their own antimicrobial or cognitive benefits, silver and gold, respectively. But they also have their own photodynamic benefits as well. So again, you're amplifying the benefits of red light therapy when you ingest this bio blue. Lastly, we include folic acid because folic acid helps you absorb anything that you're consuming when you're also taking it with folic acid.

00:13:24:14 - 00:13:53:08 — Dr. Mike Belkowski
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00:13:53:08 - 00:14:29:11 — Dr. Mike Belkowski
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00:14:29:12 - 00:14:51:25 — Dr. Mike Belkowski
Go ahead and give bio lights, methylene blue, enhanced product, bio blue a shot and see what you notice, especially when you combine it with good red light therapy treatments. And so when was light water founded in 2019? Oh, same years, bio light, but a good year. But but the and the to get to a commercial facility to produce just a modicum of light water to produce now.

00:14:51:27 - 00:15:15:14 — Victor Sagalovsky
So that's a that's a 12 year task. There's so many directions we could go here. So so first let's just underline deuterium or D0 is twice as heavy as it's not. It's not twice as heavy because look there's we got oxygen in that once it's going to bind to a hydrogen to make water and other things dry. But then you got the actual hydrogen itself.

00:15:15:17 - 00:15:38:21 — Victor Sagalovsky
And the actual hydrogen has three isotopes. It has protein which is the simplest one, which is everything runs on nature including our bodies. Why which is why. Why is it the fuel of life? Because it's the simplest thing in nature. It's one proton, one electron. Done. Okay. Everything else has a neutron. So deuterium comes along. It's still a hydrogen, but now it's got a proton, electron and neutron.

00:15:38:21 - 00:15:59:07 — Victor Sagalovsky
That neutron makes it twice the size, right? Twice the weight, twice the mass. So and then every other elements got a neutron. And this is how we have periodic tables is based on how many neutrons coming out. So then there's isotopes. And so these are called isotopes. Then there's tritium which is a third eye. So hydrogen doesn't really matter.

00:15:59:10 - 00:16:23:05 — Victor Sagalovsky
What matters is what what impacts our biology that's prevalent in nature. So you've got deuterium. And then if you have two deuterium and one oxygen that is pure heavy water. That's the stuff they use nuclear reactors and neutron moderator and other things. Heavy waters use IT industry. It's it's when they discovered that hydrogen had another isotope before 1933, they didn't know.

00:16:23:12 - 00:16:47:17 — Victor Sagalovsky
They thought there was only one type of hydrogen. And they discover there's multiple types of hydrogen. They realize they can use one for a lot of nuclear type things. Right. The atomic age was born. And now then they realize a little later, really, at the same time, a couple of days later, the sort, the thing that was better and softer, it was the atomic age was about removing deuterium.

00:16:47:20 - 00:17:11:24 — Victor Sagalovsky
And here they're adding deuterium. So they're getting heavy water. And there's a, there's the balance of that which is removing the heavy water. Now heavy water, it's very rare one out of 41 million molecules. Water's due to. Oh okay. So there's not much of it, but the one we're more concerned with is the one. There is a lot of it, and that's H2O.

00:17:11:24 - 00:17:44:11 — Victor Sagalovsky
It's not heavy water. It's semi-arid water. There's only one of the hydrogens is different. And that's roughly every 4200 molecules or 200 to 6000. Right. So it's a lot. That means those nano motors that are always spinning those turns into motors and are mitochondria spinning to produce ATP energy. And water, molecular water. There's stuttering about every eight seconds or stuttering because they're getting a deuteron instead of a protein that that's got the extra neutron.

00:17:44:13 - 00:18:11:29 — Victor Sagalovsky
So it doesn't fit that special motor that runs on protons, it doesn't run on neutrons. Deuteron causes it to stutter. And in that stutter, no energy is produced and that stutter because these motors spin it up to 9000 rpm at 100% efficiency. We can't do that on F1 sports car, but it's done continuously in our body. So that stutter creates damage.

00:18:12:01 - 00:18:35:24 — Victor Sagalovsky
That damage gets repaired and has to get repaired again and again and again. And I, I like to joke. Imagine that you and your partner have a wonderful relationship. You know, every morning you get up, you get a kiss, and then once in a while you get an elbow to the face and it comes around and around and around again and and eventually you just you just can't take it anymore.

00:18:35:24 - 00:18:55:06 — Victor Sagalovsky
Yeah. It's like, you know, it's coming. You know, you get a kiss every day. But just one day, just once a year, you get an elbow to the surface instead, maybe a kick to the groin to get magic. And that's what's happening. And it's happening nonstop in the mitochondria, because this elephant that's in the China shop, it's too big to get through where it needs to go.

00:18:55:06 - 00:19:15:16 — Victor Sagalovsky
So okay, what happens? Well, that that stutter, that damage, it creates weakness in the membrane. That membrane is so important because the difference it's like a zombie invasion. You don't want them to get into the mall. They're going to eat everybody's brains. You need to keep them outside. So there's this gradient where the protons on the outside want to get to the protons on the inside.

00:19:15:16 - 00:19:41:07 — Victor Sagalovsky
And that's what that's what makes the motor spin. If you if that membrane gets damaged you get proton leakage. Once there's enough leakage where those protons equalize, the motor doesn't spin the zombies 80g. So you're done that mitochondria finish. And next. So this is this is a big problem. And it's fundamentally jumpstarted by the turn. And we can manage some deuterium that comes in.

00:19:41:10 - 00:20:03:27 — Victor Sagalovsky
But we quickly get overrun because we're living at a time where we have more than we share. Our physiology is really geared toward 100 and 20 p.m. a little less, a little more. But that's it. We're that's where you want to be, right? Natural. But we're all at 150. Not all of us. I'm like at 85. So you're at 85.

00:20:03:28 - 00:20:30:03 — Victor Sagalovsky
That's crazy. Well, it it's it's low. And it took years to get here because I couldn't break 100 for a long time. So I figured and I was drinking it straight. So I figured there's there's stuff we don't know. Right. And I figured out of my organs are flushing it. You know what's going on here? I can tell you this, I have pretty much limitless energy, and sometimes I abuse that too much since, you know, in terms of sleep.

00:20:30:06 - 00:20:56:14 — Victor Sagalovsky
But. But that's the benefit. The benefit is you're you've got, you know, you're you're always you're always on. You're always you're always at the peak form that you want to be at. Like I said, it's prone to abuse, but it works. It works because it because it's a it's an equation of Proton Motorsports. You're increasing proton motor force which is what methylene blue is assisting to do as well.

00:20:56:16 - 00:21:21:03 — Victor Sagalovsky
And that proton motor force is what keeps us going. But you have to have a whole support structure for this too. So, you know, a little knowledge is dangerous thing. So you should know more than what we know. That's why I'm where I am, because I wanted to know more than what I knew. I wasn't happy with, what I knew, what I wanted to know more, and the fundamental question is how do we extend our lifespan?

00:21:21:05 - 00:21:49:07 — Victor Sagalovsky
And and even better, how do we extend our healthspan? You know, because your lifespan is really healthspan because nobody wants to be alive if they don't have their health. So and I started getting into trying to really understand the mechanisms of aging. I was an armchair gerontologist since I was a kid, just fascinated by why things like what animals, plants, humans age so and what the mechanism of that is, was.

00:21:49:09 - 00:22:09:02 — Victor Sagalovsky
And then there. And so I started to understand this as a as I was studying it and sort of putting pieces together. Deuterium is one of them. It's a but there's others, you know, and there's some that we can't mitigate, like we're radioactive. And within a lot of theory paper on this, the endogenous radiation damage theory of aging.

00:22:09:04 - 00:22:31:04 — Victor Sagalovsky
So if we're radioactive and within there's alpha, beta and sometimes gamma decay and that they're always shooting that up. And in doing so we get double strand breaks in our DNA. And being a copy of a copy of a copy, you know, I don't know if you've ever played around with a copy machine, make it copy and then make a copy of that and exactly that.

00:22:31:04 - 00:22:54:04 — Victor Sagalovsky
You see that you get degradation information. So that's what's happening to us. We're losing information as we age. And that's happening because we can't control we can't mitigate the alpha beta, gamma decay that's coming from within because of the. So we it's all has to do with isotopes, right? There's some isotopes that are radioactive and there's biological transmutation.

00:22:54:04 - 00:23:27:06 — Victor Sagalovsky
I believe there's enough evidence out there on this as well that's happening then. So there's so that, you know, at the same time, if one to put into question the very foundation of biochemistry, which you you start out, if you start getting in deeper into the quantum realm and start getting into biological transmutation and, and then a lot of things start making sense and you start getting into other sources of energy in the body that are not mitochondria because there's because there's more than one source, a, a smart system.

00:23:27:06 - 00:23:46:22 — Victor Sagalovsky
We have redundant sources of energy. Would it not that we wouldn't just you wouldn't just be a you don't want to be on an airplane with just one engine. You want to have two in case one fails. So there we have redundant multiple sources of energy to keep this organism alive. So anyway, yeah, this is what this is what I'm interested in.

00:23:46:25 - 00:24:08:23 — Dr. Mike Belkowski
It's interesting you brought up how if you were to put two different types of water, people would gravitate towards the lighter version. Because when I very first started taking light water, it was unexpectedly so enjoyable. My body felt like my cells just wanted that water. It just felt good, it tasted good. And it's just like there was almost this magnetism to wanting to drink more of that light water.

00:24:08:23 - 00:24:32:22 — Dr. Mike Belkowski
So it's interesting that you brought that up because I, I literally experienced that myself when I first started it. We can get into how deuterium depleted water is made, because I think that's very interesting. And that explains why it's not a cheap commodity at this point. But let's let's go down the road of more physiological impacts of drinking deuterium depleted water, because based on the book, I read that one behind me again about cancer.

00:24:32:29 - 00:24:53:11 — Dr. Mike Belkowski
It seems like a lot of the experts and researchers in the deuterium field agree. And you've kind of alluded to this, that there's this line in the sand of what a person should strive for from a perspective, parts per million to be below. Otherwise, if you're above that, you're significantly more likely to get cancer diseases, all of that.

00:24:53:11 - 00:25:16:23 — Dr. Mike Belkowski
But if you're below you're virtually you're you're chances go significantly down. Right. And I think the book was saying 130, maybe it was 120, but you're saying it's 1:20 p.m. is what a person should strive for. Tap water is typically like 155 one 6131 two when it's when it's 155 when you're drinking desalinated water. And that's a whole other conversation.

00:25:16:25 - 00:25:36:07 — Dr. Mike Belkowski
Gotcha. And then so if a person starts drinking light water, which is 10 p.m., which is incredible, let me, let me and we we should we we make it 5 p.m. I saw that I saw that, but it it's it's, you know, it's only 3% more. So let me mention this first. So in that book again behind me it's called deuterium depletion.

00:25:36:07 - 00:26:02:11 — Victor Sagalovsky
Who would have thunk. And that's a that's his second book. So that book you're referencing is by, Doctor Shin Ly where he has a, he's been doing this for a long time, ever since his thesis in the 80s. And he's got a case studies now of survivability of people with cancer and survivability, people that are, determined depletion lifestyle is like 8 to 10 times more than people that we're not.

00:26:02:11 - 00:26:27:16 — Victor Sagalovsky
So. And he's got I'm talking case studies that are he's got over 2000 these case studies. But the magician is brilliant because in the 80s he discovered something. And I and I believe this is why we're censoring Wikipedia. When you look up to turn to the water, because many scholarly additions have been made, many academic and, well-researched, peer reviewed, even contributions have been made to the Wikipedia page.

00:26:27:18 - 00:26:52:12 — Victor Sagalovsky
And it always gets taken down almost immediately. And here's why. I believe it's because in the 80s, when he was getting his doctorate in this, he discovered that uncle Gene, do you know what an uncle Gene is? Cancer. It's it's genetic. It's a genetic predisposition to cancer. Just like we have a genetic predisposition to everything. Like we have genetic predisposition to living longer.

00:26:52:12 - 00:27:19:18 — Victor Sagalovsky
Some people even shorter heart disease, all kinds of other genetic factors really terrible genetic diseases out there. Really bad. So this is a genetic thing. Okay. So uncle Gene, maybe you have deletion of some gene that is anti-cancer. You know, like you could you could read the book while and still get cancers. There's something there too. So anyway, so these uncle genes, they give you a higher susceptibility to cancer.

00:27:19:20 - 00:27:45:10 — Victor Sagalovsky
Right. And so many examples of this generation will be born with the same cancer or generation generation. And he discovered that the deuterium to hydrogen ratio in the body determines whether these uncle genes turn on or off. That's pretty radical. And nobody's listened to him. Nobody's taken him seriously. I would say somehow he has gotten as far as this.

00:27:45:18 - 00:28:10:00 — Victor Sagalovsky
The water that he produces is registered as a therapeutic for veterinary cancer for cats and dogs. So we got a little he got a little somewhere, but regardless of this, or if people really knew this to be the case, if there was, if there was, there was a full consensus among everybody in the world, not just the few that understand interpretation.

00:28:10:03 - 00:28:39:27 — Victor Sagalovsky
My goodness, if you if you change that ratio, all those genetic predispositions to neoplastic conditions, just go away. Thing is, there's not enough water out there. It's a third way. So it doesn't it doesn't bother me either. I mean, few people know about this. We wouldn't be able to support them anyway. So eventually, you know, Cat will be out of the bag because there's simply it's just like with my partner Robert Slovak says it's just a simple evolution of the new standard of water.

00:28:40:00 - 00:29:00:28 — Victor Sagalovsky
My partner says this too, because. Because if you're in water filtration, you know, like Robert, his brother started reverse osmosis in this country pretty much just wants to make commercial home systems all. We're not giving this straight up like, you know, started it. And that was a standard filtration because before that you were filtering what with some carbon.

00:29:00:28 - 00:29:27:04 — Victor Sagalovsky
Maybe you were filtering with distillation. Up until that time, distillation was was the standard. And then reverse osmosis became the standard. Now we have a new standard, which is to that, unfortunately, it's a very difficult standard to meet. It's almost impossible. Like I said, it took a decade plus to figure it out, to take something that was that was just theory and lab device to make it commercial.

00:29:27:04 - 00:29:49:18 — Victor Sagalovsky
We produced for a small number of people. I mean, you realize that it's just very hard to do, and the water becomes very expensive because you're you're kind of maybe not copying. You're inspired by the by the hydrological cycle of nature. So we look at the hydrological cycle and how it works. I say, okay, let's do it under controlled conditions and let's amplify this.

00:29:49:19 - 00:30:09:12 — Victor Sagalovsky
That's all. That's all we're doing. But in order to do that, you need enormous amount of power, because you need the hot and the cold. So and you get only a little bit because you're separating one water from another type of water. So up until this time that every standard was like, hey, let's remove contaminants from water because we know contaminants are bad that aren't water.

00:30:09:15 - 00:30:35:29 — Victor Sagalovsky
And now we come and say, hey, listen, there's another contaminant, and it's a type of water. It's a higher, more type of water from the some water. Yeah. If you have a, if you have a liter of water that is 10,000 drops. Okay. So now we all know that a liter of water is perfectly 10,000 individual drops out of those six are semi heavy water.

00:30:36:01 - 00:31:04:24 — Victor Sagalovsky
And those sick six sick six drops keep us sick. They wreak havoc on our balance with those six little drops. Sure, you could will them to the surface and just ladle them out with a little spoon. Beautiful. I haven't found a way to do that yet. So because they're stochastic, meaning a random right. Those molecules are in water randomly, and we have a filtration mechanism in our bodies to keep it up.

00:31:04:29 - 00:31:30:17 — Victor Sagalovsky
But like I said, it gets overrun very quickly. We peak in our 20s and then we start going down energy wise. Metabolic you know the and the metabolic is a it's an it's an alien in our in our body because we have a relationship where these two beings two separate DNA and decided to have a marriage man create this symbiotic relationship.

00:31:30:19 - 00:31:57:18 — Victor Sagalovsky
And so mitochondria and the and the nucleus of the soul. So it's two different mitochondria. They're just working together. One ensures that this one gets fed and protected. And this one ensures that you get water and energy. Okay. That's the that's the relationship that's been going on for 1.45 billion years. The oldest marriage in the universe, perhaps because they work together and and because they work together, we've been able to evolve.

00:31:57:18 - 00:32:23:15 — Dr. Mike Belkowski
And I say we, meaning consciousness, have been able to evolve these complex multicellular organisms that are now talking through zoom. Let's go back to the process of making deuterium, because, I mean, you you described it eloquently, but I again, want to kind of make a bold statement about it. Like these contraptions are massive. These are these towers or I don't even know what to call them, but the machinery is massive.

00:32:23:18 - 00:32:48:27 — Victor Sagalovsky
We call them columns and columns. Yeah. And, like, how tall are they? How many of them are there? How long does it take to, like, clutter? Some. Some of this I don't want to share but jerker. But they're there between 35 and 40ft tall. Yeah. And they each produce small amount of water. So so you know we have we have you know less than 100, more than 100 because we're, we're updating.

00:32:48:27 - 00:33:15:04 — Victor Sagalovsky
And in order for this to really work like on a grand scale, either invent a new type of physics which maybe exists out there. I to this running the company, doing everything to increase production to to at the same time study alternative ways that are outside of current understanding of physics. But there's physics limited. You can use hadronic mechanics and, you know, you contribute, maybe figure this stuff out.

00:33:15:07 - 00:33:42:19 — Victor Sagalovsky
But the thing is, is, is that there's very little because because if I had got like 5000 columns, okay, which, which is like, you know, we're talking a document, a scale where we need $100 million to do it. That would still be enough water to, you know, 50,000 people if they're connected everywhere. So it's it's a get on it right now before we run out, really before we reach capacity because we're just about there.

00:33:42:19 - 00:34:03:29 — Victor Sagalovsky
And we, we, we try to stay ahead of it. Well, but it's not easy because that's why I'm trying to build a factor here in the US. And I'm I'm making good progress on that. It's a lot of it's a lot of very complex engineering and manufacturing because all the equipment is proprietary. And we make ourselves. So it's not like you can grab stuff off the shelf.

00:34:04:01 - 00:34:21:20 — Victor Sagalovsky
Yep. And if you do it, if there is something off the shelf, you have to modify it. And nine, nine out of ten of those things that you try to get off the shelf is you modify it. They don't they don't, they don't, they don't live up to up to it. So it's a lot of it's just it's a big challenge technically to do this.

00:34:21:24 - 00:34:42:24 — Victor Sagalovsky
And then there's the whole there's the whole side of, you know, the purity aspect of it. You know, it's you're, you're we're creating the purest water that exists that anybody has ever known. And, and except the body goes, hey, I got some of that too. So the body creates the purest water that's ever existed, and we just try to match that.

00:34:42:24 - 00:35:04:17 — Victor Sagalovsky
But if we make it even, even better because it's ten and 5 p.m. and you mitochondria is maybe like 40 to 62. And so we're actually actually going what? That what that will do is only only time will tell. I'm aging but my but my energy is staying same. It's not better than it was 15 years ago. Yeah.

00:35:04:17 - 00:35:26:22 — Dr. Mike Belkowski
Be interesting to know. Maybe maybe there is some information out there, Victor. Maybe not. But since your brain is so, so mitochondrial dense and has so much water mass, I would hazard a guess that there's massive implications for, again, just cognition and mood and behavior letter, let alone preventing mitigating, maybe even potentially reversing signs and symptoms of neurodegeneration.

00:35:26:29 - 00:35:54:04 — Victor Sagalovsky
But it seems like my partner, my partner did a study and there's a well done study that showed that there was a risk of depression correlated to where you lived in the United States, based on the deuterium level of what was coming out of your tap. So he was able to correlate this to depression. And absolutely, when you feel lighter, you have more optimism and optimism inspires confidence.

00:35:54:07 - 00:36:16:25 — Victor Sagalovsky
You know, you get a cascade of all those good things coming at you. So it's a very positive thing, you know, because a surplus is what we want, right? On a on a subconscious level, we're looking for a surplus of energy because that imprints itself as the conscience, as confidence, as the ability to, you know, I can do anything right.

00:36:16:28 - 00:36:34:29 — Victor Sagalovsky
You look out the window. Yeah, I could I could write that. I could find one. You know, you don't you don't feel limited. Right? Like you're you don't get into the negative space like, oh wow, I wish I could or at one time I could or I'm too injured, so or I'll just ignore it. But when you look at things and go, I can conquer that.

00:36:35:02 - 00:37:11:01 — Victor Sagalovsky
That's some serious confidence. And that confidence comes from a surplus of energy because we want safety and surplus and safety comes from surplus. So we want to have security, water security, food security, air security, all kinds of other security, family security, financial security, you name it. And that instills safety. Safety has all these positive benefits, right? Allows us to be bigger than we are, allows us to share and teach and give, you know, really grow.

00:37:11:03 - 00:37:33:24 — Victor Sagalovsky
You have to have freedom. You know, you have to have that freedom, the autonomy and it's not just external freedom is the freedom in your own body. How free or how free are you with your thoughts? How quickly can you manifest those thoughts and to reality that is going to depend on your optimistic outlook and your ability to inspire creative influence in the future.

00:37:33:27 - 00:37:58:02 — Victor Sagalovsky
And so that you need energy. So, when you deplete the deuterium, your body goes, wow, thank you. Because I because there's no there's no biological reference for lowering the chair unless you fast. So if you're fasting or pure keto, which is what animals do, if you observe they get sick, they stop eating, they fast. Lower the the chair.

00:37:58:05 - 00:38:24:12 — Victor Sagalovsky
Right. You see the mean ketogenic diet, the carnivores. What are they doing and lowering of here you see whales migrating thousands of miles and then fasting in one place in Hawaii, going back to Alaska and drinking glacial runoff. That's returning depleted. You see birds migrating thousands of miles to go back from the tropics to a wilderness in the far north.

00:38:24:14 - 00:38:50:18 — Victor Sagalovsky
Why? Because they want to have a better strategy for the survival. They're young. And that strategy is to depletion, because they're going to a place that has lost its heritage. So we inherently have all this understanding of our physiology. That's biology. Yes. And so when you give your body a means to lower the engineering, your brain thinks it's absolutely true.

00:38:50:21 - 00:39:19:23 — Dr. Mike Belkowski
Would you say that? Are you saying that you feel lighter or heavier metaphorically, or is that also in the literal sense, like in various both literal and metaphorical? Metaphorical because you know it, it's a metaphor. It's whatever matter, whatever metaphors you could distill from the actual literal feeling. Yes, it would make sense that if you're improving mitochondrial function, you're probably lowering oxidative light at you.

00:39:19:26 - 00:39:55:17 — Victor Sagalovsky
I mean, I'm like, I'm light on my feet all the time. Sure, I notice that, like my friends that are my age that are not returning to the water, I notice that that load is missing more lethargic, perhaps. It's like a total body awareness. It's how you move, so it's how you ambulate it's really appropriate. Receptive responses to things, but no body language and and how you move through what you know that will basically and your ability to call up energy on demand do you don't and I'm I'm over 50.

00:39:55:24 - 00:40:17:09 — Victor Sagalovsky
I don't need to prove to myself what I could do. I've already done I never did that. Really. Then the sports, the Latinx, the running, the heroic, the heroic deeds, you know, physicality. Now I just want to maintain I already know what I was, what I'm capable of doing. I don't need to keep ruining myself now. I just want to maintain so I can call it up on demand when I need it.

00:40:17:13 - 00:40:48:11 — Dr. Mike Belkowski
That's that's that's, you know, that's over 50 maturity, you know. So yeah, I want to I want to I want to have that. I don't want to lose anything, but I don't necessarily have to keep redoing it missing. And could we make the delineation. This is just based on a book, different book from the one behind me that was talking about deuterium, that it's actually beneficial when you're an infant or even in the womb up until the age of 25, but then around that time period, then it becomes a detriment to your health and your energy and your health span.

00:40:48:13 - 00:41:19:07 — Victor Sagalovsky
And then it starts going, I don't know, I don't know about that. Okay. Because nothing I've nothing I've read is conclusive or more than just theoretical on any benefit deuterium has. I can tell you how one might think that has some benefit, and surely there's you're never going to get it out. You're always going to have which we're specifically talking about how it how it affects energy production, how it affects DNA replication, enzyme expression.

00:41:19:09 - 00:41:39:11 — Victor Sagalovsky
Well, but when you have a bond of deuteron to do anything else, it's a shorter bond. It's a stronger bond to stronger bond. And so that means it disassociate slower, which is not good if everything needs to go in lockstep and perfectly right, like if you've got if you got a bad drummer, you know it's going to affect the rest of the band.

00:41:39:13 - 00:41:57:14 — Victor Sagalovsky
So this shorter bond with kinetics right. Yeah. But kinetics isotope okay. So we got a you got a hydrogen attached to a carbon. You got hydrogen attached or a deuterium attached to the carbon. You can have a difference in how they and how they disassociate. And the one from the carbon. The journey of the carbon is nine times slower.

00:41:57:17 - 00:42:19:02 — Victor Sagalovsky
Okay. So that has that's water that's in everything. So because it's a tighter bond, you would think that you would think that an advocate for apatite I think I forgot how it's pronounced. But the the cells that are in the bonds okay. And the and really you're looking at something being stronger. You say, okay, well this term has a tighter bond.

00:42:19:02 - 00:42:45:11 — Victor Sagalovsky
And to make sense that in some places that would be very useful. Right. And I'm not saying that's not the case as possible. I don't know about that science very well. But I do know you'll never get rid of deuterium. So and I know that people that give the term water to their insurance and drink it while they're pregnant and then drink it, give it to the infant and have them grow up with it.

00:42:45:13 - 00:43:08:26 — Victor Sagalovsky
Right. Even I'm not sure if anybody's given ten people, but they see nothing but better development. Faster. Stronger because easier. You're you're you're creating harmony more harmony, more coherence because you're taking out that information. If everything is just a few other information, you take out the bad information, bad bits. So you do that from a young age because you're not going to get it all.

00:43:08:29 - 00:43:29:03 — Victor Sagalovsky
You're still going to get it. And through this there going to be the vacuum. You're never going to be a deuterium free being. That's a that's. But maybe in the future you can make you can make a case for growing certain to this, all this other stuff. But the point is that we mitigate how much is coming in.

00:43:29:05 - 00:43:50:21 — Victor Sagalovsky
And so I think that could be done at any age, from conception, from conception forward. Because, because wherever the deuterium is needed for, it's in fact because if it's slower kinetics has some benefit in, in bone structure or density. And no, I don't know. This is just, this is all anybody other people's thrown out so far as purely theoretical.

00:43:50:21 - 00:44:10:13 — Victor Sagalovsky
I like to see some actual evidence in one way or another. But if that's a theoretical belief, then that has nothing to do with energy production, and you're never and you're always going to have enough deuterium for two things. It's like the argument that you shouldn't drink distilled water because it will leach minerals from your body. It couldn't be further from the true.

00:44:10:15 - 00:44:39:01 — Victor Sagalovsky
And yet for decades, somehow this bad meme has made it through people's consciousness. And we get food from our much. We get we get minerals from our food. But you can drink distilled water. Why? Rain is distilled water, right? So so that's absurd. There's this fallacy, you know, and and they just keep getting perpetuate perpetual fallacy. And so so so we're stuck in this paradigm.

00:44:39:03 - 00:45:02:16 — Victor Sagalovsky
You know, if you don't get out of this paradigm paralysis then it's going to be consequences. Not for the not for the best. So as we find new paradigms, we find easier paths forward that establish a new, better paradigm. We should take them. We should actually take them because the way they make our lives easier. And yeah, there's a there's a negative of making your life easier.

00:45:02:16 - 00:45:27:03 — Victor Sagalovsky
You might stop being, you know, you might stop being that resilient or medically induced superhuman. But your ancestors were. But at the same time, you know, I mean, it may improve in ways that you haven't even thought of. And one of those is radical life extension and how to be happier, healthier, younger, longer. That's why I was an armchair gerontologist, because I look at people getting older, I don't I don't want that.

00:45:27:05 - 00:45:52:07 — Dr. Mike Belkowski
I don't like it for them. I'm sure not going to like it for me. Let's just quickly go over the bullet points of the impact of deuterium depleted water on the mitochondria in the packages or the boxes that the light water comes in. There's if you're watching the video, you can see this is a really nice pamphlet that light water includes, which is a really nice, just relatively succinct historical background on deuterium and deuterium depleted water.

00:45:52:07 - 00:46:22:03 — Dr. Mike Belkowski
So it was really well written, but they're mentioning things like or I mentioned things like DNA repair or when deuterium goes up the mitochondria that disallows hydrogen peroxide from being produced, which then has a negative impact on oxidative stress, so on and so forth. A lot of things downstream absolutely have the number one biggest. I suppose that a gunked up the ATP synthase, which then leads to lower energy production, which of course has its own domino effect.

00:46:22:06 - 00:46:47:20 — Victor Sagalovsky
That's number one. Okay. That is absolutely number one. Yeah. Oh, and let me ask you this because I was wondering this when I read, I actually just read this pamphlet that was, that was doctor all going into 2007 published that paper. And it's, it's radical discovery. Yeah. Because he actually discovered and showed the mechanism. But you can't really argue against because it's, it's just, it's mechanical.

00:46:47:20 - 00:47:10:25 — Victor Sagalovsky
So mechanical problem. And that was just a big that was a big wakeup call for me. And I didn't know who else got the call. But I really got it. And I wrote that article because I wanted to establish the provenance, wanted to establish who all the people were and give them credit that brought this forward. So that's that's another.

00:47:10:25 - 00:47:33:23 — Victor Sagalovsky
If you read that article, it's that really it's the history of the term. Yeah. After the water everybody got credit. You know, in the head. So yeah it was it was a very enjoyable read. But I wanted to ask you so was it every eight seconds one ATP synthase gets gunked up by deuterium. Is that correct? Yeah. It's more or less it's more like a it gets gunked up.

00:47:33:23 - 00:47:56:13 — Victor Sagalovsky
It's more like a stutter because it's still process. It processes it through, but it's you can imagine if you put some sand in your motor or you put or you put gas in a diesel motor, you know, just or it has a detrimental effect. It's so it's a real stutter, you know, it's ongoing and continuous so that the ATP synthase motor isn't made for it.

00:47:56:20 - 00:48:15:27 — Victor Sagalovsky
It doesn't have it doesn't have a, you know, it's a square peg in a round hole. You get this round hole and you try to fit that extra deuteron. And so it's like being chained to your to being chained to like here's some. Then we have the dragged around here. You're not going to be very popular at parties does it.

00:48:15:27 - 00:48:38:12 — Dr. Mike Belkowski
Does it take a certain number of deuterium clogging up the ATP synthase to then completely destroy it and render that mitochondria completely useless? That's what I was. That's what I was saying. It's a that's that that continuous stutter if it's not repaired in time, but if that if you don't if you don't recover from that, oh go to the phase at some point you just cry, uncle or you can't recover.

00:48:38:12 - 00:48:57:21 — Victor Sagalovsky
And what that recovery looks like is it is is, you know, the if it weakens the weakens that ATP synthase motor generator. And what happens? You get leakage in the membrane. It's being held in a membrane. Once you have leakage in the membrane then, you know, then it's it that's it. You know. So it's a it's like the Titanic, right?

00:48:57:23 - 00:49:22:29 — Victor Sagalovsky
It's all it's great until it gets punctured. Once it's punctured, it's going to sink. So, that, you know, there's a something called living that happens that. So gentlemen, free, radical, free for all. So and nothing, then nothing gets repaired and that mitochondria gets shut down by this signal. We get sent. It's shut it all down. Good. So.

00:49:23:06 - 00:49:49:11 — Victor Sagalovsky
And it never starts back up. Now there is might only agenesis where you can actually induce production in more mitochondria. That's a fascinating subject. But I think you'd have to induce them faster than you just in your when you're destroying it. Yeah, that'd be a tough task if you're not mitigating these. You're not mitigating it. Yeah. So so I so this is very exciting because we've never had such libertarian water available for human consumption.

00:49:49:11 - 00:50:13:20 — Victor Sagalovsky
So we don't know what's going to happen. It's really top level environment because in fact, I like to say it's the crown jewel of all, but because it's water and and we're doing something doesn't exist in nature. We have. But yet the benefit is greater than the than than the benefit you get from finding the lowest source of the polluted water in nature, which is I talked to most people.

00:50:13:23 - 00:50:38:18 — Dr. Mike Belkowski
I can take that. True. With that being said, okay, so what would you guess? And I'm sure you know, based on your knowledge and research, most people listening to this podcast that aren't actively live in a deuterium depleted lifestyle are drinking depleted water. What would their PM be? Yes. 150 if you're above 150, you're you're and you're in metabolic danger zone.

00:50:38:21 - 00:51:03:00 — Victor Sagalovsky
I mean, even 150 is metabolic. I'm not I'm an uneasy zone. But if you're above 150 and a lot of people are now, you know, you are susceptible to all those things like you're talking about, right? The ratio of proteome to deuterium is just not kosher. Is there an actual objective measure to what it does to your voltage from a systemic?

00:51:03:02 - 00:51:25:15 — Dr. Mike Belkowski
I mean, I would guess since it's a negative or like not a good thing for you, it would bring you towards a positive, more towards a positive versus we want that negative millivolt I'm just guessing because. So I think the best measure of that is phase angle, right. Bio impedance analysis. And my BIA has increased. It's not it's not it's any more negative.

00:51:25:15 - 00:51:49:29 — Victor Sagalovsky
Is is that the correct way to was the phase angle we're talking about. So when someone is the study phase angle but it's measured. It's a measure of resistance and capacitance. And the ability, how much energy can you capacity and hold and what you're not just resistances. So that's phase angle but impedance. And so my bio impedance has improved because I'm able to store more charge.

00:51:50:02 - 00:52:10:03 — Victor Sagalovsky
Yeah. We will have less resistance. That's what that's what you want. You want. That's what I'm saying. Energy on demand. We want to we want to be able to be fully charged with the right polarity as well. And and then you want to be good at dissipating the, the positive or the positive polarity, which is the negative. Yeah.

00:52:10:10 - 00:52:34:07 — Victor Sagalovsky
But you want to be able to. So, so you really just, you know, you're, you're one with creation essentially, you know, you got good electrons coming in, you got some bad ones going out. And so this is just your energy body. But we're talking about how much fuel it can produce and how much you can mitigate damage in the future.

00:52:34:09 - 00:52:58:12 — Victor Sagalovsky
Because if you take a set of twins and you put one grows up in LA and the other one goes up in Boulder, Colorado, that's a delta, I don't know, 12 points, 12%, I don't know. It's a la 151 38 139 out with Captain Boulder, and it's the eastern slope of the Rockies. It's more turned depleted anywhere in that area.

00:52:58:15 - 00:53:39:13 — Victor Sagalovsky
And so over time, that's going to be huge. The amount of conservation of energy that one twin has compared to the other right there, this one is more metabolically stress now. And this one is more metabolically in-tune because the the drinking water for years because it's, it's really it's really a thing that's looked at over time and tell you over a 20 year period, this one's going to this one's going to age assuming everything else is the same, one twin is going to age faster than the other metabolically because they're exposed to more degenerate and their body, which has to be mitigated.

00:53:39:16 - 00:54:04:10 — Victor Sagalovsky
So, you know, it's a conservation of energy. Now it's the capacitance and bill of energy and prevention of damage, systemic damage, deterioration in the future. That's a that's that's a lot. We just you get a lot with just, water now. And it's not the water. It's your own deuterium level. The water is just a catalyst. It's a tool for hydrogen exchange.

00:54:04:10 - 00:54:25:19 — Victor Sagalovsky
Your body, if it gets if it gets hydrogens that are more protean, it exchanges them for the heavies. Doesn't want the hose, it's ready to dump them up. But the only way it does it is through hydrogen exchange. So as you as we lose water and we have to take in water because our bodies can recycle 30 maybe percent, maybe a little bit more, maybe a little bit less.

00:54:25:22 - 00:54:49:18 — Victor Sagalovsky
But we recycle an enormous amount of water, 9000 gallons a day. If you look at all the little chemical processes happening, we recycle an enormous amount of water, but we lose so much. But we need to get more of that extracellular water. You know, it's a balance. It's a real it's a real balance. And I did want to mention about this book behind me, deuterium depletion with the anti-cancer research.

00:54:49:23 - 00:55:17:13 — Dr. Mike Belkowski
I believe he was using sometimes 110 parts per million. And for more aggressive approaches, 85 parts per million. And he was still seeing those amazing even like stage four anti cancer or like prevention or reversal of stage, stage even one, even 1:35 p.m. has no known biological benefit. Deuterium depleted water is a drug in some countries, correct. Over in Europe it's no, it's not a drug.

00:55:17:16 - 00:55:49:15 — Victor Sagalovsky
Like I said, he has he has approval for to treat cancers in cats and dogs. So it's not a drug thing is it's just water. It's just a new standard of water. You might look at it like a drug, but it's not putting anything in your body. It's taking something out. So it's not a drug. Well, I say that because it's synonymous to back in the was it the early 1900s or mid 1900s when Robert Slovak told me this, like the French government, they saw how well Clinton water was working on its residents.

00:55:49:17 - 00:56:15:05 — Dr. Mike Belkowski
They wanted to like, sequester the supply. So they then made it like a basically a pharmaceutical or a drug so that they could monopolize or control the supply. So they can control. Is it really a mineral supplement? Right. It's trace minerals supplement, organic bioavailable, mineral supplement. So that is putting something in the body we're talking about something that has is pure H2O pure.

00:56:15:08 - 00:56:39:17 — Victor Sagalovsky
And so all it's doing is now if you wanted to you can call it a drug. If you can make a claim and to make a claim, you'd have to go through drug trials and spend $1 billion ultimately to find that water safe to drink. So I think, I think the the focus is the focus is on the water because it's the only it's the quickest, easiest way to get into tearing down your body.

00:56:39:19 - 00:57:05:24 — Victor Sagalovsky
But it's not the only way. And and it's really the conversation should be steered toward not the water, but to turn the body. Yep. Well, whatever gets you there, you know, we'll talk about that like some strategies because we talked about ketogenic diets and so that'll that'll do it for fasting keto. We'll do it. Limit the carbs. Your your foods that are high in fat animal fats will have lower deteriorate.

00:57:05:27 - 00:57:31:26 — Victor Sagalovsky
Your sugars will have more data. There's a nature as a strategy that it, depletes the fat and it loads the carbs with and that's, that's in plants and animals, with the. So your, leafy greens can have less interior and then you route, tubers and things like that that we eat. So fasting. So to do intermittent fasting, that's fantastic.

00:57:31:26 - 00:57:59:05 — Victor Sagalovsky
Generally we over drink, we have you consume too much water and that's unnecessary too. And if you start drinking conservative water after a while, you realize it will get thirsty because your body as well hydrated. I can show you blood works for people that drink a gallon of water day and they're completely dehydrated. I do very little water and you can you can get most of your water from fat as well.

00:57:59:07 - 00:58:35:22 — Victor Sagalovsky
And we do. And when we exercise and when we burn fat, so we kilo fat, we burn. There's a liter, just about a liter to get water, maybe not ten people, but it's enough to get you into that, enough to get you into a healthy state. So a combination of fasting, keto, keto, adapt to diet, or being fully ketogenic exercise, light exposure is these things within the mechanism and how you change saunas, things like this and and and not over consuming or consuming food, over breathing.

00:58:35:24 - 00:59:10:02 — Victor Sagalovsky
Pretty much. How does that sound? And the overconsumption of water as well. And sugar, constantly snacking, all this stuff. I mean, it's just it's just you get back to simple lifestyle and you're just hearing what will naturally decrease. And there's other things you can do, like more moderate things like hydrogen inhalation, the resell hydrogen machines. If you use light water hygiene machines, then you can lower your and still just by inhaling the protein hydrogen fasting I think is my favorite because I referred to inflation when I couldn't get any water.

00:59:10:02 - 00:59:29:15 — Victor Sagalovsky
Knowing that it worked as a deterrent to clear the body. I was dry fast. I usually did five and once it at six days I would have gone seven. Mom, mom said she's going to kill me. Disposable. I'm going to do it fast. But six days is 144 hours without food and water and still functioning in the world.

00:59:29:15 - 01:00:14:23 — Victor Sagalovsky
So I think I recommend everybody try fast, you know, start a day, start to, you know, do what you can and really understand. Sit with it and you will get a better understanding of how water is used in your body and and everything of food, how to optimize an organism through autophagy. And I mean, there's so much you learn experientially from dry fasting.

01:00:14:23 - 01:00:34:23 — Victor Sagalovsky
Clinical dry fasting is conducted for 12 to 14 days under supervision. That cures people with cancer to really learn not so dry fasting is fantastic. When you lower the germ level, it goes back up. If you come back into the eating world, you know not the right way. So seriously, this is a lifestyle choice. Yeah. And the to the water.

01:00:34:23 - 01:00:54:18 — Dr. Mike Belkowski
So it's just easy mechanism to get you that that normally would take a lot more discipline. So like that's a good way to finish that because let's say you're sitting around one 4145 and you want to get to that 120 or below without deuterium depleted water, it would take a lot of fasting. It would take a lot of ketogenic.

01:00:54:23 - 01:01:15:13 — Victor Sagalovsky
Or is it even possible you'd have to change your mind. You have to will yourself so much, you know, because I know what it's like. Somebody will themselves to be full keto or fast. You know, that's not most people are going to do the training itself. Yeah, yeah. You have to be really you have to really be desperate.

01:01:15:13 - 01:01:32:22 — Victor Sagalovsky
Desperate or feeling good, you know, one or the other. If you're just coasting, it's usually you're not going to move. You're not going to move yourself to that. So yeah, but you can still sit on your ass and drink to turn to the water and it will work for you. And then at some point you'll be like, wow, I feel like getting up because I got all this energy.

01:01:32:22 - 01:01:56:19 — Dr. Mike Belkowski
Now, if that's not a good sales pitch, I don't know. It is. No. But so so the the measurement of determining your body because of course, I think if someone wants to go down this pathway, you need to have that baseline or ideally you would. I guess if you don't want to, you could just drink it and assume you're improving because it's been objectively proven baseline security.

01:01:56:21 - 01:02:16:08 — Victor Sagalovsky
You can you can just you can guess a baseline. And I don't know if it's like you don't want to, you know, testing is expensive. It's hard machine for us to run. But you I can guess your baseline. Yeah. Based on where you live and what your life sounds like, I assume it's 150, but if you really want to know, you got metabolic issues and you want this validation, then get that test, get that baseline and then see where you end up in 90 days.

01:02:16:08 - 01:02:36:07 — Victor Sagalovsky
But right then try to maintain that and learn from that. And it's a learning process. I learn a lot when I travel and I don't go, I don't have to turn the water. And I see that there's this. My body even improves. There's a paramedic in effect where where I my body has to now be forced to how it what it does with, you know, how it filters to deuterium.

01:02:36:11 - 01:02:56:13 — Dr. Mike Belkowski
So I go up I travel to two three weeks. If I run out of water, you know, I'm like I'm 8590 GPM, I go up to 110. There's benefit in that. No, you're stressing the organism a little. So we're learning things that just we didn't know before because there was no there was no discernible water to experiment with.

01:02:56:13 - 01:03:14:11 — Dr. Mike Belkowski
So that brings up a good point. Traveling so you don't necessarily travel with water, like we do I do, but our food runs, like, oh, you're going to see I put a suitcase. Actually, I usually like 16 wheels on a suitcase. If you don't have a check in, though, I don't think I should. I should I ship it ahead?

01:03:14:13 - 01:03:36:12 — Victor Sagalovsky
And if I don't have it, I don't have it. Sure. And then you get a hermetic response you're alluding to. Then I get an interesting response because my body wants to even have more energy. It's like it's like efficient enough that it's something I, you know, I like to I like to quantify this, but there is a resilience that happens.

01:03:36:14 - 01:04:02:03 — Victor Sagalovsky
And then when you start going down again, you get some other added benefit. So there's a lot to still be learned, but just experientially, I know what I feel like, you know, and I know and I know and I know the got a stack of testimonials like this right. Very rarely share because it's just because you try for yourself, you only prove you're going to get it's going to convince you to do it yourself.

01:04:02:05 - 01:04:25:27 — Victor Sagalovsky
Yeah. Blast me all the time. Where are the studies? Where is this? You know, you can go to depletion that I put this up. Duple itong compound word of deuterium plus depletion. Depletion.com. Do sorry not.com.org a, and that's a little, oracle trained specifically on everything that has to do with deuterium depletion. All the studies, all the literature.

01:04:26:00 - 01:04:48:21 — Victor Sagalovsky
And you can ask you questions and they'll tell you, is it good for this is good for that, you know, all this stuff. But ultimately it's just if you're convince yourself to try, we have two types of customers, those who can afford to drink it and those who can't afford not to drink it. If you can afford to drink it, then you're going to kick yourself years down the line when you tell yourself, well, yeah, I could.

01:04:48:24 - 01:05:08:12 — Victor Sagalovsky
I get a drink? Did we? I had the money. Why didn't I? Well, I don't know. And the second one is people are just they, they're so desperate to get well that they can't afford not to have it because it's. Which is it's that metabolic intervention that everybody that's dealing with something we'd love to have because there's because you're actually getting conservation of energy.

01:05:08:12 - 01:05:29:08 — Victor Sagalovsky
So, yeah, you know, you can't do anything without energy. We can't. People go into it, they want to go detox, and they get into this crisis and they go detox. All these time reactions and even worse, because their body doesn't have the energy to do it. So you have to give the body the surplus of energy. But hyperbaric hyperbaric is another great example.

01:05:29:08 - 01:05:52:19 — Victor Sagalovsky
Like you guys have injuries that are decades old that never healed. The body's willing to it just doesn't have the energy. So all of a sudden you'd run a hyperbaric for five days a week for six months, and all these old injuries start to heal. And both optic injuries. Right. Or brain injuries. And you go, oh my goodness.

01:05:52:22 - 01:06:11:26 — Victor Sagalovsky
The body was just waiting until there was enough energy to do it right. So that's that's the terrain that we have to provide. So the blueprint is there. We know the body knows what to do. Just says, just give me the currency, man. It's so foundational though, is I mean, at this point, it's even though we're going to get more and more research in the future, even at this baseline point, we're out.

01:06:12:01 - 01:06:32:26 — Dr. Mike Belkowski
Deuterium depleted water is so foundational. I would call it almost nonsensical. There is the financial aspect to consider, but if it's that foundation on it will make that much of an impact on your health acutely and certainly long term, with a compound use of it. It's a no brainer for me. You don't even have to be on it all the time.

01:06:32:29 - 01:06:55:28 — Victor Sagalovsky
You know, do a year and see and then go off it for a few months and see, you know, see what happens. Yeah, it's it's an awareness that it's not convenient because you say, oh, wow. One more thing. It's not convenient to that. Our ATP synthase promoters never made room for deuterium. It's not convenient. A lot of things are.

01:06:56:01 - 01:07:17:21 — Dr. Mike Belkowski
So that's why we have the human brain to come up with ways to catch these. You catch these problems. Well, and it's interesting you brought up people might start it then get off of it for whatever reason, then wish they had never gotten off of it. Because again, the book behind the due term depletion, he was he has a ton like dozens and dozens of case studies he goes through throughout the book.

01:07:17:23 - 01:07:38:10 — Dr. Mike Belkowski
Thousands. Yeah, well, in yellow in the book. In the book. Yeah. But historically you saw this pattern of so-and-so had this type of cancer stage. You know, one through 4 or 5, whatever they got in deuterium. More often than not, positive benefits extended their lives past what they were told. Some of them are told they live for like 3 to 6 months or even years and years later.

01:07:38:12 - 01:08:05:12 — Dr. Mike Belkowski
But then you saw this pattern of this person ended up passing away. They had discontinued their doubling him, deuterium depleted water lifestyle like 2 or 3 or 4 or 5 months prior to their death. So there was this pattern of where there was finances, or maybe they just, like, forgot why it was working for them or the benefit they discontinued the deuterium depleted water.

01:08:05:12 - 01:08:27:27 — Victor Sagalovsky
And then shortly thereafter, the cancer came back and they died. It is foundational. And the clinical studies that were done show that even one week a month has biological benefit, that even one month a year as biological benefit of being turned depleted. There's a cascade that happens is certainly, you know, if you're dealing with some neoplastic condition, it's good to give yourself all the metabolic ability to heal from that.

01:08:27:27 - 01:08:48:17 — Victor Sagalovsky
But you can generally it's, you know, your body still benefits you. And even though maybe you did it for a short time and then you stopped, like looking like you said in that case and prolong their life, they just didn't realize that they needed to go a little bit more. So and thing is, it's something that you could make know if you have to kind of yeah, you can try DWI.

01:08:48:18 - 01:09:22:12 — Victor Sagalovsky
It's a it's like I said, it's a, it's it makes you it's like a it's a great it's a great way of cheating in a sense. Like for me it, it, it, it inspires me and tricks me into overextending myself because I can't have a lot of energy. So at some point people have to understand their diet is important too, and everything else is.

01:09:22:18 - 01:09:57:03 — Victor Sagalovsky
But you know, just their lifestyle is important. The deal is going to work regardless of that. But I think ultimately it's just it's a good it's just brings you to the awareness that what can I do to mitigate deteriorating body and and that has to do with the right diet and the right the right practices. And, and they're all ancestral practices, you know, grounding sunlight, relaxation, you know, not being in a not being in a sympathetic nervous condition all the time, being, being a fighter flight all the time.

01:09:57:06 - 01:10:25:19 — Victor Sagalovsky
All these things contribute, you know, doing science, traditional saunas, hyperthermia, heat shock, proteins, these these are all things that humans have already invented and are already taking on ancestrally, culturally as a practice. And every generation kind of finds the same things over and over, and they approach it as if they invented it for themselves. All these things are given to us, and now we just have we're just trying to figure out how to how to get better at understanding how the human body works.

01:10:25:22 - 01:10:49:25 — Dr. Mike Belkowski
And we have, you know, clinical chemistry is, is less than 100 years old. We we know so much. I mean, look, we got orderings down. We could track our HIV in real time. You know, it's just phenomenal what we could do. And this, this constant biofeedback is, is causing us to evolve faster in our knowledge. Understand can we apply that evolution and knowledge understanding to actual evolution in the body.

01:10:49:25 - 01:11:16:11 — Dr. Mike Belkowski
That's what that's what I'm trying to understand. And, I'm trying to create solutions for that by making available to people, because I really wanted to change it for myself, understand how I can, how I can get this thing to work more optimum, this body, because it's no fun being sick, and it's really fun being healthy. So do you on a daily basis, just drink straight light water perpetually or do you?

01:11:16:11 - 01:11:42:05 — Victor Sagalovsky
I don't I don't drink much water. You get consume most of my water through tea or something or something else. But yeah, sometimes I drink water, but usually I'm like, I'm a person. Like a really high quality tea and or other things are doesn't have to be can make sense. It's more likely to be other other teas. But I like to I like to usually, you know, put something in there, carbonate my water, you know.

01:11:42:08 - 01:12:00:04 — Victor Sagalovsky
But actually but yeah, just now I love coconut water. And that's I in between empire. And so it's kind of works against yourself. You're spending all this money on GW. So now we sell dehydrated or evaporated. Coconut water powder so you can make it the coconut water which is very nice. And so yeah, I try to yeah I try to just drink by water.

01:12:00:07 - 01:12:24:04 — Victor Sagalovsky
You could diluted 5050. You're still going to get that same benefit. So. Right. That's why I wanted to bring up is there's if you look at the price of a bottle it's like whoa you know this could get you get benefit. You get you get you get clinical benefit all the way to to 1 to 1 before the evolution up to a quarter just have to be.

01:12:24:09 - 01:12:47:07 — Victor Sagalovsky
Yep. Yeah. One. Yeah. One 100 one quarters. Yeah. Well even more you know, 1 to 4. So one 104 parts for 20% D.W.. Yes, yes. But then you have to be a lot more strict, you know, on skewing that, you know, going out and having a beer or, you know, whatever whatever you're doing in your lifestyle outside of your regimen, it's in the, in the home.

01:12:47:08 - 01:13:18:10 — Victor Sagalovsky
So then you have to really just, you know, you got to be, you know, be more vigilant. Now, what it does for your metabolism is phenomenal. So yeah, like my digestion is really good. Right. Well it's something that, you know, I, I look at the science of it, you know, it's science convinced me. And so I started the company without ever having to drink, to turn to water, only desire to consume it.

01:13:18:11 - 01:13:41:27 — Dr. Mike Belkowski
You know, I tried it, but to do it work for months on end, a year on, I didn't have that ability. So. But the science made sense. So in the science for it was science proven itself completely right. And then just another couple of questions here. Theoretically doesn't make any sense at all. If you're on your own board with W to change the ratio of the W, let's say you want to go full for a little bit than half the quarter.

01:13:41:29 - 01:14:07:15 — Victor Sagalovsky
Is there any benefit to undulating it or altering it or. It's a great question. Yeah. That's a it's a great question because, you know, in the beginning when you're just starting to return to the it doesn't really matter if you drink it straight or dilute it certainly straight, get a little into maybe a little bit. But that's, that's, that's it's arguable because your body is only going to be able to exchange certain amount of material.

01:14:07:19 - 01:14:24:01 — Victor Sagalovsky
Oh, today. So interesting. You see. So quarter pm upward, upwards of 1 p.m. you're only going to exchange in that day no matter what you drink. So in the beginning, that's why there's you can take graduate steps. You know, your 124123122121. You can do that too. And, that's kind of what Shim Ly recommends for in some patients.

01:14:24:01 - 01:14:50:19 — Dr. Mike Belkowski
But even his I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, and at least at the time of this book, the lowest they're drinking is 80 5 p.m., which would be a that's all. That's all you have, right? I mean, so is he using, like, water like yours? That's like 10 p.m.. Like that's significantly lower. No, no, he's not. No.

01:14:50:21 - 01:15:23:00 — Victor Sagalovsky
That's all he was able to get make. And so he was going down to 130 and gradually down to 80, which is essentially ten gpm divided by two. Right. Which is 1 to 1 you get. Yeah. Yeah. 80 something. So, depending what you're, you know, some digital water that's, it's like we, we're our factory. It's, you know, it's expensive to make.

01:15:23:00 - 01:15:40:23 — Victor Sagalovsky
And it would be way more expensive if we were starting with 150 being water. Way more. We're starting artesian water using world water. That's 139 gpm. So that helps. So yeah, you could be in a you can get it naturally slightly lower in places when you diluted 1 to 1 you get. Yeah. So that's a good amount because you know, you could look at it like holistically in the sense that lowest germ, depleted water on the planet is Antarctica is 89 and actually 85.

01:15:40:25 - 01:16:03:18 — Victor Sagalovsky
If you go down the lake down there, it will make sense, like the lowest on the planet. We want to we went further because it's just like it doesn't matter that we're lower than has ever existed, because we're, we're we're loaded with the stuff anyway, so it might as well go as low as we can to get it out.

01:16:03:21 - 01:16:26:24 — Victor Sagalovsky
We have to drastic measures, you know, drastic. We live in a drastic times and drastic times call to drastic measures. So this is the drastic. This is the answer to all this to mitigating all this environmental stress. Modern life stress that we have to. And humans have this ability to call in the answers for the for the problems of the day.

01:16:26:29 - 01:16:59:25 — Dr. Mike Belkowski
The problems of the day are what? Look, you're you're you're obviously don't like blue light because you're wearing blue light blockers. So that's a problem. You know, EMF is a problem. Not enough light exposure. Wearing plastic shoes, not getting grounded, eating too much. We over breathing and drinking the wrong things and having the right or wrong lifestyle choices and being in a constant fight or flight.

01:16:59:26 - 01:17:22:12 — Dr. Mike Belkowski
You could say these are modern problems with so. So we found modern solutions. It's an interesting time because we're evolving that sense of like starting to understand what we need and inventing the technology that appeals to our biology. And just for clarification, Victor, so are you saying the amount of benefit from going, let's say that 80 that we're cutting in half your 10 p.m. to around areas, there's not a significant benefit from doing the 10 p.m. versus cutting it in half.

01:17:22:13 - 01:17:45:18 — Victor Sagalovsky
Is that when you look at when you look at the data, that first drop from 150 down to the 125 or in the 120 range is is the significant is is the is the moment. Right. That's the that's the beginning of a new metabolic. You anything beyond that is great. So certainly I can make a case for. Yeah.

01:17:45:18 - 01:18:05:13 — Victor Sagalovsky
Why would be nice. It's feels nice to be 100 by 100 pm and 120. But at that point it's, it's it's incremental. You're just gotcha. The goal is to get to goal. Goal is to get to where your physiology is, what your physiology is made for. Anything else is it's nice. It's it's kind of a it's kind of it's a good cheat.

01:18:05:20 - 01:18:32:23 — Victor Sagalovsky
Like I said, you know, again, we can take advantage of the fact that I have limitless energy. So it's more proton motive force, but it also takes more responsibility as well because you have to have a support mechanism, you know, more. So better to do it. You're not going to you're not going to maintain that unless you practice it.

01:18:32:25 - 01:18:58:12 — Dr. Mike Belkowski
If you can drink 10 p.m. straight and still be 110 again, or even 115, because you have to make because you have to make some concessions in your in your choices. All right. And so before we sign off of this episode, a couple of quick, very exciting announcements. Light, water, scientific and bio light have forged a collaboration in partnership with one another.

01:18:58:12 - 01:19:16:01 — Dr. Mike Belkowski
So what will happen in the very near future at the time of this episode? You know, at the time this was released or shortly after, look for a newsletter making the announcement formally that all of our bio blue supplements that use water will be utilizing 100% light water at 10 p.m.. So again, our goal with the methylene blue in the bio blue supplements to optimize mitochondrial function.

01:19:16:04 - 01:19:39:24 — Dr. Mike Belkowski
So what better way to further optimize it by using the best water in the world and correct me if I'm wrong, Victor, we're going to set it up so that we'll also be able to offer light water on the bio light website, through or through a way to connect our shops. We'll look into that, see how to look into that.

01:19:39:28 - 01:20:02:17 — Victor Sagalovsky
And then of course, there's an affiliate code where your your members will get a discount on their first order. And I think doctor Mike is the code for that. Yes, yes. So if you guys and I believe it's for a subscription, which why would you. Because you get it. I think it's 20% off if you subscribe. So if you guys are interested in utilizing or trying out light water, what is a website that you're just drink drink light water.

01:20:02:17 - 01:20:22:11 — Dr. Mike Belkowski
That's what I thought. Drink light water.com. Go check it out. There's information there. There's different offerings from light water different volumes of water. And then glass versus bottle. Excuse me, plastic bottle. Like, Victor alluded to earlier, there's even a 5 p.m. option. But again this is a subscribe and save gives you, I believe, 20% off use code doctor Mike.

01:20:22:11 - 01:20:40:14 — Dr. Mike Belkowski
And that'll give you an additional 10% off of your first subscription order. So go check that out. And also with future products in the future, because there's going to be other things other than bio blue that by light we'll be producing that utilizes water. And we will be utilizing light water exclusively and all of those products going forward to.

01:20:40:14 - 01:21:03:11 — Dr. Mike Belkowski
So I'm very excited to have this partnership with you, Victor, in your company, Light Water. Yeah, we're excited to yeah, it's going to be a it's going to be a good partnership together. So I just wanted to make that announcement and especially now that Victor's camera has run out of juice, it needs some D.W.. But, any any last words of action before we sign off here?

01:21:03:14 - 01:21:28:27 — Victor Sagalovsky
I think this was a pretty comprehensive discussion on on deuterium depleted water. I mean, any other things like that? You do. Maybe I should ask, outside of what we've discussed today, that you think really moves the needle forward in terms of improving your wellness and healthspan. I think there's a lot of I think there's a full spectrum of approach that one can take that will have radical consequences for their health.

01:21:28:27 - 01:21:55:18 — Victor Sagalovsky
I think the most important thing is to find out what is going on, right. If you have a health challenge, then you have to it's it's in your best interest to understand the root cause of something. And once you know the root cause of something, then you can go after it. So but as far as a panacea for everything, you have to change your water.

01:21:55:20 - 01:22:18:12 — Dr. Mike Belkowski
June-July. That's simple. Agreed? Agreed. I think, and I'm really excited to have this episode released because, again, I've known about deuterium depleted for a while, deuterium depleted water for a while, and I've been wanting to get this information, especially from a, one of the top experts in the field, to really break it down for us. So I'm glad to have you on, Victor, and I'm sure we can have further discussions in the future as more research comes out or if there's any new things coming down the pipeline for light water, we'll we'll bring you back on.

01:22:18:12 - 01:22:40:01 — Dr. Mike Belkowski
But for the time being, I think this has been a great discussion to get people's chops wet. Hopefully with some I'll mention some more websites like I mentioned depletion that I. Yep, that's if you have questions of a more clinical scientific research nature. That's why I created that resource. And then deuterium test.com if you want to get tested.

01:22:40:01 - 01:23:03:10 — Victor Sagalovsky
It's also on our main website drink water.com. And that way you can quantify how this is working for you. Because the only claim we make is that if you drink deuterium, bitter water will lower the deuterium content in your body. And we've developed a way to test that using saliva. So you can quantify whether it's working for you on that end.

01:23:03:10 - 01:23:26:24 — Victor Sagalovsky
And then and then the qualitative benefits you're going to feel you're going to experience for yourself. And I think the older you are and the circle you are, the sooner you get the benefit because it's because it's in your body. Your body welcomes the path of least resistance. And your body isn't trying to stay sick. It's not trying to stay low energy.

01:23:26:27 - 01:23:51:17 — Victor Sagalovsky
It's not trying to continue to have problems. Those are just those are just signals to your brain to do something. So this is if you're list you got all the way this far in this part has. Maybe that's maybe this is a signal really tried it. But yeah I'd love to keep collaborating with you and we'll see how the how it works out with methylene blue I think it's I think it's radical actually.

01:23:51:17 - 01:24:21:25 — Dr. Mike Belkowski
It's like, it's to incredible interventions for mitochondria in one bottle. So they're I go to you and looking forward to this. Likewise. Victor. Hey, I appreciate your time, as always. I know you're a busy guy. We'll have you on again in the in the future for for certain. Thanks, Mike. Absolutely looking forward to it. Likewise. So for Victor cycle off ski.

01:24:21:27 - 01:27:23:13 — Dr. Mike Belkowski
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